Commando Archive
Thread: Helios: Please Address a Commando Concern over the new Weapon Availability Change
Theosar
Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:36 pm
#118
Id say if people use the test centre.. then they should not expect a fully functioning game.. what is on there now is not the final products.. there will be flaws, there will be errors.. that is part of why its being tested.. Ive read across the boards now frustrated threads about broken proffessions.. about "devs not getting it".. but thats all wrong..
The system is being fine tuned, and I hope when it goes live we will all see that they planned this good.
If some people cant use the testcentre for what it is meant to be, Id suggest they stay off it and wait for live version to come to their server.
Olsson
Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:52 pm
#119
I'm willing to give the benefit of a doubt to Helios, Starnick and Garvin that theres not a current plan to totally ream us, as it first appeared when the certs disappeared from our tree. Anyone else, I'd be much less willing to take at face value.
Time will tell.
Helios_SOE
Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:22 pm
#120
The_Great_Destroyer wrote:
The Proton Rifle isn't firing...you can equip it but it won't do any attacks.
Helios_SOE wrote:
See... that didn't hurt so bad afterall, did it?Hope to see you guys burninating stuff on TC today.
Thanks for the note. The fix should be out with the next patch.
"There is no reality in the absence of observation."
Gatgatsugatling
Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:34 pm
#121
A lot of the heavy weapons fire too slow for the amount of damage they doo. The Heavy Partical Cannon was easly being outdamaged by a scout blaster and other non heavy weapons that fire by far faster.If the speed is going to remain slow then the Dammage needs to be brought up drastically. The flamethrowers seem to be fine but don't do any area damage. The Proton Rifle just won't fire.
Helios_SOE
Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:50 pm
#122
Akkori wrote:
If its true they are incorporating EQ2 code, [snip]
So... I have to ask - is this really something that'sbeing seriouslyconsidered as a possibility by someoneor are you guys just joking around?
"If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet."
Ohetie
Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:52 pm
#123
a lot of people think that you guys are copying EQ2
*shrugs* i wouldn't know, never played it. so far i'm enjoying it, so kudos.
*shrugs* i wouldn't know, never played it. so far i'm enjoying it, so kudos.
Ohetie
Ekymer
Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:55 pm
#124
Helios_SOE wrote:
Akkori wrote:
If its true they are incorporating EQ2 code, [snip]
So... I have to ask - is this really something that'sbeing seriouslyconsidered as a possibility by someoneor are you guys just joking around?
"If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet."
I think he is joking, cause actually we all think you are taking the EQ2 code and just incorporate the SWG graphics into it 
Jokes aside now, if you read the forums you will find lots of post that say SWG is turning more and more into EQ2 with the Combat Upgrade
Novock
Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:02 pm
#125
I could care less if its original or copied. I'm having fun with it I just don't like the particle effects for the states you end up looking like a disco ball. The weapon particle effects are awesome though.
Helios_SOE wrote:
Akkori wrote:
If its true they are incorporating EQ2 code, [snip]
So... I have to ask - is this really something that'sbeing seriouslyconsidered as a possibility by someoneor are you guys just joking around?
"If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet."
TheNarcis
Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:04 pm
#126
Ekymer wrote:
Helios_SOE wrote:
Akkori wrote:
If its true they are incorporating EQ2 code, [snip]
So... I have to ask - is this really something that'sbeing seriouslyconsidered as a possibility by someoneor are you guys just joking around?
"If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet."
I think he is joking, cause actually we all think you are taking the EQ2 code and just incorporate the SWG graphics into it
Jokes aside now, if you read the forums you will find lots of post that say SWG is turning more and more into EQ2 with the Combat Upgrade
People complain saying its like EQ2 and WoW. But the hard truth is the combat there is more engaging and fun. It is rather dull in the current SWG system of spamming specials. So if the new CU is truely like those games, then its welcome, due to the combat being more fun.
StarNick
Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:10 pm
#127
SWG really has been my first major (and only) MMORPG, so I can't really relate to WoW or EQ/EQ2. Some folks really do think its seriously cut/paste EQ2 code...
Btw - to a reply of Hvy Weapons being too slow...
If you're a Melee/MC, then they might be, thats the cost of going for melee and better tanking abilities (a more PvE commando role I think). My current build on TC-Ep3 has me doing specials of 1.1-1.5k damage every 1.75 seconds. A MBH/MC/Carbineer build does a bit more (slighty better speed than a M. Carb/MC/4004 Pistoleer). Of course I have 4 SP open which Ill probably put towards FS speed hehe...a pity though, I think because of the CU I won't be going back to any slight dabblings of hunting IV or music IV again =/
Btw - to a reply of Hvy Weapons being too slow...
If you're a Melee/MC, then they might be, thats the cost of going for melee and better tanking abilities (a more PvE commando role I think). My current build on TC-Ep3 has me doing specials of 1.1-1.5k damage every 1.75 seconds. A MBH/MC/Carbineer build does a bit more (slighty better speed than a M. Carb/MC/4004 Pistoleer). Of course I have 4 SP open which Ill probably put towards FS speed hehe...a pity though, I think because of the CU I won't be going back to any slight dabblings of hunting IV or music IV again =/
TheNarcis
Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:17 pm
#128
memnoch37 wrote:
Helios_SOE wrote:
Akkori wrote:
If its true they are incorporating EQ2 code, [snip]
So... I have to ask - is this really something that'sbeing seriouslyconsidered as a possibility by someoneor are you guys just joking around?
"If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet."
Never underestimate the stupidity of people. I've talked to many people that seriouly believe EQ2 and/or WoW code was literally copy/pasted into SWG. They 'proved' it when the EQ knowledgebase info bled into SWG searches.
Gee, both being SOE games and having linked servers... naw that cant be the reason of that bug.
StarNick
Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:19 pm
#129
Heh it has happened in the past on the current live servers. Mainly due to the reason that we share the same tell and mail systems, and most likely share the same knowledge databases. If we didnt, then we couldn't send tells across games =D
TookyG
Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:31 pm
#130
Akkori wrote:
If its true they are incorporating EQ2 code...
Let's be realistic. SOE most likely has rather strigent guidelines regarding version control. An SWG dev wouldn't be able to access EQ2's source.