Commando Archive
Thread: E-Web...An Interesting Idea to discuss...
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garvin
Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:20 am
#1
In speaking with the another Correspondent, he came up with a very interesting idea and I thought I would solicit feedback from our community...
What if the E-Web was cert'd to both Commandos and Squad Leaders...Yes the E-Web is a heavy weapon, but hear this out...it's going some where..
Commandos would have less accuracy and speed mods then Squad Leaders, but our Specials associated with this weapon would do heavier damage. So Squad Leaders would get more speed and accuracy, but low level damageor no specials.
Now consider this idea. Squad leaders would also get special skill mods that effect both the SL and the Commando when they are grouped, boosting the E-Web accuracy, speed and damage (kind of the same way they can give group bonuses for terrain negotiation as an example)...This would promote the more of a working relationship between Commandos and Squad Leaders...
What do people think of this idea? Wold you rather it be just a Commando weapon? Or do you like the idea of a cooperation with the SL Community...remember, SL's are due for a revamp...maybe this is something we could get their support on in adding to that revamp...
Thoughts?
Message Edited by garvin on 04-13-2004 11:04 AM
KeltinOxford
Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:24 am
#2
Actually yeah, that'sgreat. With two professions working together, I think the chances we might see something like this will be even better.I'd say it would be neat to work together with SLs to use a weapon like that....makes both of our professions better and more useful.
Keep on this one, I think it has potential!
Skeptic666
Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:27 am
#3
I personaly would like this to be a kick butt wepon and only for Master commandos. We need alot more for us. And we need alor more for master that we can say that is why I went master commando. Right now its like saying. I felt like waisting like 50 extra points on skills I dont need so I can have the master Commando above my head. I went master commando so that I could be picked on and ridiculed (probbaly spelled wrong) by all the other combat professions. Realy im not trying to be mean its just im sick of waiting and im mad. And ive allready droped ch to become Tka so I could be more effective in pvp so no I dont wan tot change my profession to make my self happy.
The only thing tha twould make me happy is quiting ( I dont want to) or waiting (GRRRR). I want to see more for the masters especialy its not fair we need to go master pistoleer and smug 0040 so that we can take down a turret. I hear that with the LP is deadly. Why arn't we deadly espeicaly at master? Is there any thing comming. ANd the E web. SL is meant to command and give us better mods. Not to sit with a huge wepon and attack. Thats like saying lets give Dancers Staleto SHoes they can use to stomp on your toes to make them bleed.
Sorry for the lil more then normal Hostile Post. Im not trying to its just i cant justify spending like 150 bucks any more hehe.
RazerWolf
Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:38 am
#4
No, I like it. You're saying that the best Combo would be to have a MC gunning with an MSL being the spotter and providing some large passive accuracy bonuses? I like. It's one of those things which makes perfect sense, and thus, probably won't happen 
garvin
Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:41 am
#5
Exactly...I'm going to wait for a bit more feedback then may go make a post over in the SL forum to see what they think...If they like the idea I want to get them started thinking about it (since I know the devs are starting to hit them up for revamp ideas or getting close to that point)...
RazerWolf wrote:
No, I like it. You're saying that the best Combo would be to have a MC gunning with an MSL being the spotter and providing some large passive accuracy bonuses? I like. It's one of those things which makes perfect sense, and thus, probably won't happen
DiLune
Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:41 am
#6
Actually in the history of the E-Web that I've read, the power regulation was the problem. You needed someone on the power regulator to get optimal output from the weapon. You could use a droid but it was still unstable compared to having another human twisting knobs and dials.
Bajonett
Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:43 am
#7
Isnt the E-Web a Tripod.Mounted Cannon?
That would be cool, a 2 Man Cannon Team to deploy, and use a kind of Entrenchment Weapon
Emplacement. As wirtten in one of the Old Starwars-RPG-Pubs,....
AlexandorDoran
Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:58 am
#8
Interesting idea, I'm not too supportive of letting SL's handle the gun on their own but I really like the idea of having a Commando and SL work together to have the weapon be at full effectiveness. I think this could make Commandos and SLs quite a bit happier.The weapon has always needed two people to operate in the books and movies so it would make the game more true to Star Wars (although if they really wanted to be true to Star Wars I'm sure we wouldn't mind if it had it's 500m range in the game :smileywink
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RazerWolf
Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:00 am
#9
Either way, it's another reason to not have a battlefield consisting entirely of 3 professions. I'd love to see a lot more interdependencies between professions, so that an ideal squad has a SL, one of all 4 of the Melee and 3 of the Ranged Professions, a Commando and a CM. Or that times 2. I'd really like to see a SL actually directing a battle, like in a RTS.
"Commandos, blow that wall!"
"Pikemen, cover them!"
"Riflemen, strafe those Pistoleers!"
"Swordsmen, get ready to go through that wall breach!"
It'd certainly be a lot interesting than battles now.
"Everyone Mind Poison and Head Shot everyone else until they're dead!"
I should probably be playing a different game though, if that's what I want
"Commandos, blow that wall!"
"Pikemen, cover them!"
"Riflemen, strafe those Pistoleers!"
"Swordsmen, get ready to go through that wall breach!"
It'd certainly be a lot interesting than battles now.
"Everyone Mind Poison and Head Shot everyone else until they're dead!"
I should probably be playing a different game though, if that's what I want
JaekRi
Tue Apr 13, 2004 11:30 am
#10
I like the idea, but have a few points to make.....
Seems to me that since we spend a lot more points than a sl does, we should get most of the e-web bonus. If SL's are certified to use an e-web, then, everyone will be adjusting their template to allow then access to this weapon. Who would want to waste all those points to master commando, when you can have it with much much less... I mean, sure, we might get some damage bonus, but unless an e-web in the hands of an SL, misses like a novice commando using a flamer, then I do not see this as much of a boost to commando, but more as a MASSIVE boost for squad leaders....
I think we can all agree that of ALL the combat professions, we get the LEAST amount of BANG for our buck.
I think the e-web should be a master commando weapon and only a master commando weapon. Maybe having a sl in the group should add a bonus.
Yes, I know this sounds a bit selfish, but, of all the combat professions, we are the lowest powered, given all the skill points we sacrifice to be a commando. At least a BH gets pistol/carbine/LLC for all they sacrifice.....what do we get?
Jaek Bear
Master Commando/Carbineer
Ahazi
p.s.- I know I sound bitter......but like many of us, I have been a master commando for many months, and have experienced first hand, the changes we have had to deal with. I think of all professions, WE deserve a little "lovin' " in the future combat "balance", more than any other conbat profession.
p.s.s- i apologize from straying from the subject a bit, but I have very little love for most of the other combat professions, being they are just as strong as me, or stronger with less sacrifice.
InquisitorPayne
Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:33 pm
#11
I am sort almost no one here will remember me.
But i decided to head back in here (coming from the SL Board) to propose the following:
Give all special attacks for the E-Web to Commando. Make them devastating AE attacks with PC and/or KD. To make it a truly eficient suppressive and/or Anti-Tank weapon.
Then Give commando some basic Speed and Accuracy Bonuses as well.
Now head to the SL and give the SLs major accuracy and speed Bonuses to the E-Web. Those modifiers are Group Modifiers, further adding to the Commando stats.
This way, a pure Squad leader, despite having a cert, could use nothing but autoattack from the E-Web. Only a Commando could fully utilize such the E-weba dn when combined with a SL will be able to deal out devastating damage. The damage could be way above that of a T-21 since it is 2 people operating it, thus you can utilize the damage of 2 professions for it.
Just my 2 ct.
Dogg
Raptor2k1
Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:02 pm
#12
I like the idea, so long as either profession is reasonably effective with it solo. Symbiosis of professionsfor greater efficency is always a fun thing.
The damage could be way above that of a T-21 since it is 2 people operating it, thus you can utilize the damage of 2 professions for it.
The T-21 is only a light repeating blaster, while the E-Web is a medium repeating blaster, so this would definately have to be the case, both from a gameplay perspective and a continuity perspective.
Message Edited by Raptor2k1 on 04-13-2004 03:03 PM
InquisitorPayne
Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:35 pm
#13
Raptor2k1 wrote:
The damage could be way above that of a T-21 since it is 2 people operating it, thus you can utilize the damage of 2 professions for it.
The T-21 is only a light repeating blaster, while the E-Web is a medium repeating blaster, so this would definately have to be the case, both from a gameplay perspective and a continuity perspective.
I absolutely agree with you.
Dogg
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