Commando Archive

I been reading all the forums and all I see now is people whining about how commando weps are overpowered. In one way I agree. In others I don't. Commando weps aer supposed to be strong. But at hte same time, I don't like seeing the entire pvp population switch to commando just for 1 hit kills in pvp. I was commando before the patch. I liked being one of the few. And thats the way it shoulda stayed. Commandos aren't a front line troop. They are the heavy hitters. They ar the guys who, when the goin gets tough, they get out the big guns and blow **edit** up. There shouldn't be a group of roaming commandos with heavy weps out all the time. Only in special cases. Only when you NEED to do masive damage. And I think this might be the solution to the overpopulation of the class and the balancing of the weapons.

I think ALL commandos weapons (with the exeption of the LP) should have charges. It would keep all the newbs from jumpin ship to come and flood the profession. Only the dedicated people would use commando. Less commandos = lower prices. And charged weps = less overuse in PvP and PvE. Would you pay 30k for a flamethrower to get a few kills in pvp when you could just use a pistol? Would you waste a charge to shoot a blue con?I think having charges on the weapons would greatly balance the game. Keep the high damage. We SHOULD have exeptional damage.But have charges so that these weapons don't become our main weapon. I rocket launcher or a flamethrower shouldn't be a main weapon. Those are special case weapons.

A: thats retarded

B: stop agreeing with the retards

C: commando is a tough proffession. no moron will stick with it for more then a few days after they realize "hey the beefed up reports I heard about damages are BS" I think its impossible for a commando to kill a **edit** at st with a flamethrower. PERIOD. these people crying about wounds? BIG DEAL! WOUNDS HAPPEN!

D: were meant to do flat out damage, nothing else, we do fire damage and we get 1 dot in the entire proffession. we got ZERO deffense, guess what? no one cares! we can kill stuff in 1 hit big! who cares if we gotta sit on our thumb till we can shoot again? hey its 1 on 1! no one else to kill the commando while I get DBed cause I was dumb enough to start combat within 16m

Want my reports on pvp damages? Against a rifleman with flamesingle1 and armorless I did 3200 damage. nerf you cry? nope fix! flamethrower is considered melee weapon in game and it needs to be changed to ranged. This is to show you that 6k damage is impossible with a flamethrower against a pistoleer. scared of the big bad firebug? wear armor! I've gotten a flamesingle1 shot off in pvp (real pvp not a duel) for 300 damage, 100 damage burn dot, impressive no? that took up 1 whole stim for the guy to heal and he was able to heal himself and then kill me before I could get a second shot off. HE wore armor. rest of you idiots my cry "but armor hurts me when I do special attacks!" you might take 30 extra damage from your attack but if you were intelligent enough to wear armor you just might survive mine! then its open season on helpless commandos for you! I aint writeing down my other post about the AT-ST flamer scenario. its a major diffrence between range and still equal firepower.

do research before you cry nerf (makeing flamers and hars consumable weapons is indeed a nerf)

sigh. Try and be constuctive and be called a retard. This is why I never post anything on this board.

Ok Endormoon, I wont call you names, but I will try and be constructive.

My big point of contention is this, weaponsmiths are already pirce gouging our butts off cause they see the damage the weapons do and decide they need to set that high a price and make their money off of it. If you make everything but the Launcher Pistol charged, you just upped the demand for every flamethrower and HAR so the weaponsmiths will raise their prices, AGAIN.

Of course we have the option of becoming a glorified pistoleer with a launcher again for the most part, but I'd rather be able to pull my flamethrower out on lok to use against something that is blast resistant and weak against heat, and not have to worry if I'm going to run out of charges.

Holo already posted on the Dev tracker about our weapons. I dont have a quote, but I remember him saying something about our specials being limited to 16m and pointing out the fact that we get NO defensive bonuses in our tree. A big reason why I've been considering dropping my medic and CH skills to get master TKA, cause of their defensive bonuses.

Anyone who uses their head can beat a commando, I'm rebel, and I watched and imperial friend of mine, a Novice combat medic, duel and beat a guy carrying the title "Master Commando" one on one, no faction pets, no animals, nothing. He hit him with mind poison, avoided getting in range for a flamethrower one shot and proceeded to pick him apart whilst staying on the move. All people have to do is use their heads and they can beat anything, it just takes some thought, and the ability to keep a cool head in a fight, there are far too many hotheads who would rather cry nerf than use their own brain to think a solution up.

Anyways I am against the idea of changing commando weapons, I hope I've explained myself properly for you, but thankyou for your post Endormoon, if it came to it, I'd rather have a charged Flamethrower with damage of 400-800 than a non charged one at the old level of damage.

Gairon Absolam

Novice Commando

Sunrunner Galaxy

The simple fact that it has no defence bonuses should tell you your not supposed to be a commando first. It's not a class you should see alot of. Your not supposed to be going to Lok and soloing stuff anyways. Advanced planets are primarily for grouping. And a combat medic in pvp is broken anyways so you can't use that as a conclusive argument. As a commando right now, with aflamethrower special, I can get master doc buffs, wear a full suit of composite. And be god. And so can half of the other people on my server. hell. Even without buffs, with the 75% dmg reduction in pvp, it's extremely hard to kill someone in a good set of composite 1 on 1. When the new weapons came out, I bought a flamethrower, went to endor. took 10k missions. And had a full suit of composite in a day. Now I can basically rush anyone in pvp and get within range to use a special. And with muon gold, doc buffs and my armor, nothing other then a group of BH with eyeshot has a chance of taking me down. And i'm free to 1 hit kill anyone I want.

How is this balanced in pvp. If the flamethrower had charges, there is no way in hell I would use it in pvp on unarmored people. I'd use my Launcher pistol and my pistol skills. This pistolpack a serious punch, but no commando uses it now that you can just weld the flamethrower with impunity.I'd takeout a charged flamethrower in a heartbeat on someone who was buffed like I was though. And that should be the role of a commando. We kill what the others cannot. With weapons they do not have. We are not frontline, kill em all soldiers. We are the backbone of a group. We are a SUPPORT class.

As for price gouging, there is really nothing you can do but shop around. And if charges were impilmented, hope that the devs have the common sence to decrease the needed resources to make such weapons.

ok: he has a point, but he doesnt have a point

first off, endor..you are in shark infested waters..but thats not the point

for our chargable weapons, we alreayd pay 12k+ for 30 shots

flamer/acid/lp only non-chargable - flamer/acid only weapons with special attacks

flamer/acid onl weapons besides LP that does not do insane damage with attack, instead they do insane damage at close range with 15 sec specials

chargable weapons are kneel and fire, having all our weapons besides the LP would not be a good idea

right now, on the low end i can spend 70K buying: New LP, New Flamer, New HAR, New Hvy Acid Streamer

if each (xept lp, so minus 10k off from there) had charges, that would be 60k for 90 shots with three weapons - and out of 90 shots, we WILL miss at least 1/4 of the time(and thats meaning optomistic)

point: only our true hvy weapons are charges, where it should be - WE ARE NOT MILLIONAIRIES

Your still basing your pricing and current market values. Which would inevitably shift if charges were implimented. Prices as it stands are greatly inflated for 2 reasons.

1. They are all NEW items. Every new item entering amarket is more expensive to buy at launch. Why? becuase no one has them. Once everyone gets one, prices begin to stabilize.

2. Because of the new damages, and impressionable people who want to be superman and THINK that being a commando is the answer, the class balance has shifted and made the new weapons a valued commodity.

And I seem to have to keep pressing the point. A flamethrower is a heavy weapon. An Acid rifle is a heavy weapon. A rocket launcher is a heavy weapon. Heavy weapons should not be a primary weapon. They are designed to kill stuff that LIGHT arms cannot. When I see someone using a flamethrower on a Gnort, there is something wrong. When I see someone using a flamethrower on an unarmored dancer with a TEF. Something is wrong. Hell, I rarly ever even see any other heavy weapons anyways. How many commandos actually USE a rocket launcher. Or a particle beam projector. All I ever see is flamethrowers being grossly misused. And in all honesty, I do it too. But I would rather have balance in a game with no clear goals then supreme power.

I think I've had enough of the Lag Pistol thank you very much. Goodbye

im going with everyone else on this one....who cares if someone is using a flamethrower on a gnort lol i mean whoopy...if people aren't suppose to solo on lok or any other advance planets you mine as well take out the whole creature handler profession listen to rest of them they know the math better then i do most likely if every dam weapon had a charge except the launcher pistol id be losing money in a heartbeat

i dont want to have to use my launcher pistol in every situation for few reasons. 1 monsters have resists...if a mob has blast resist i dont want to have to waste my 30k flamethrower or 20k Heavy Acid rifle just to make a dent. Also when im in a groups i rarelly use my Flamethrower on LP if there are any Melee people in the group because i make them lag like hell if im forced to have frikin charges on my HAR then screw that ill stick with my LP get yelled at and probably booted eventually im not saying im cheap person but i mean im not made out of money. I like having the choice of being able to use different types of weapons worrying about charges not to mention missing which happens quite often thatd suck completely

if there aren't suppose to be tons of commandos around then there arent suppose to be many hybrid classes period maybe Bounty Hunter for example? just because you want a class YOU can be and be one of the only ones that are one is plain selfish when your noob your not gonna go right of the bat and try to go commando once you see the requirements when i first started playing i looked at Bounty Hunter i was like pssh no thanks too much work i didn't decide to go commando for almost a month later when i developed the patience to do it, i mean i dont like how many commandos have just happened pop outa thin air when the patch came in i was one when they were terrible infact i had to use my LP so much i qualified for pistoleer and smuggler and almost half way to intermidiate in one of the skill boxes but guess what suck it up and deal with it

i never flagged myself as a commando and still don't and probably wont till i get a better title just cause i hate the name novice commando but im not made out of money i dont really even want comp armor that much right now i have a set of ubese but im about to buy set of Chitin just cause i think its the coolest looking armor not everyone is going to go buy a set of comp armor to be UBER!!!! and the people you charged in PvP must of been noobs themselves cause i'd been nailed once i took a step forward.

i hope this idea never gets added because i think its pretty selfish, and just a bad idea i've yet to read a post where someone agrees with you because you'd be screwing everyone over just so you can be the only commando.