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Glaxion

Sun Mar 21, 2004 2:49 pm

Hello Commandos,

I don't know jack about this profession, but I was hoping you guys could help me out here.

I have gone up against MANY, MANY, MANY commandos in PvP, especially those using flame throwers. Now let it be known I don't go out and PvP, much less travel (I am almost always overt) without being buffed to the max. I have alt Master Dancer, Master Doctor and Master Musician characters, so I am ALWAYS buffed.I also use some of the best armor around. My template: Master Scout/Master Pistoleer/BH Pistols. So I have really never had a problem beating Commandos in PvP, ever...until just recently...

Twice last night, we attacked a town, fully buffed across the board and all wearing very good armor. The first time there was only about 4 or 5 of us and very un-organized. We got our butts kicked by a similar sized group. Stuff happens, no big deal.

We decided to get a better organized group, with a doctor, and hit them again. We got FULLY buffed again and headed out. Not only did we gett our asses handed to us again, but this time it was over in SECONDS. All but two of us dropped by health almost instantly. I was off to the side and I didn't get hit by whatever they got hit by, but I watched it and was amazed!

Needless to say, we all studied our combat logs after cloning and found that one person almost single handedly took our whole group out, with a flame thrower.

I figured this was a fluke, because while I am not the most experienced PvPer on Tarq, I almost exclusively PvP in this game. And like I said above, I have NEVER had a problem vs. commandos with flame throwers. So today I decided to get buffed up, put on my best set of armor and go back to see what was up with this commando. And sure enough, in 5 seconds I was down and out by health.

I decided to see if they would tell me the stats on their Flame Thrower, and they said it was a900+ damage and 2.8 speed Krayt Flame Thrower. Is this an uber thrower? Have you seen better? What is average? And if commandos can kick ass like this with a good thrower, why do I see so much complaining on this board about the commando profession?

Justcurious...

Thanks,

Message Edited by Glaxion on 03-21-2004 01:55 PM

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HardcoreHick

Sun Mar 21, 2004 3:02 pm

#2

yes, thats very nice, but my friend hasa 2.5 932+flamer, i went hunting with him and he killed everything on endor before i even got a shot off, i made him switch to TKA, which helped, slightly

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Jaysin138

Sun Mar 21, 2004 4:00 pm

#3

My Krayt flamer is 599-1195 with a 18.5% wound and 3.7 speed. She is a work of art.

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Ranelaen

Sun Mar 21, 2004 4:26 pm

#4

Um you say you were buffed and had armour? You sure about that, check resists it may be damaged wherever he hit you. In reality even a krayt flamethrower will only do around 400-600 dm with 82% resists composite. So as far as how you died? I dont know, if you dont have armour you can take upwards of 2000 dm from a flame thrower. The only thing nice about krayt is the speed factor, he can pull off another fl single 2 in 6 or so seconds instead of most of our 10seconds. Now if he had some uber lotot fl, and not a krayt then maybe, check your logs again.

Ranelan

Matser Commando - Colonel in the Imperial Forces

shutout

Sun Mar 21, 2004 4:47 pm

#5

the problem for you is that your ranged defense is pretty low. you're an easy target for the flamesingle2. if we try doing this to riflemen, fencers, tka's and what not, its a lot harder to get a hit on them.

i have a krayt flamer that is 1.9 speed (speed sliced obviously) with 900ish damage. i've 1 hit killed unarmored people who weren't buffed, but if they have armor on, or are buffed, i usually use my tka skills. they go down faster that way.

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Devir92

Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:11 pm

#6

Those numbers just don't add up. After the 75% PvP reduction, the AR 1 armor vs the AP 0 of the flamer, the heat resists of the armor, it's simply not possible to kill a buffed, comp armored player that quickly with a flamer.

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maddogs

Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:24 pm

#7

i cant honestly se this haping at all he most be useing some thing other then it seems that or explot

a few questions

1 what did the burn tic for if any

2 how much did he hit for in intial attack (what you seen aboveyour hed not the commbat spam it dont take in armor resit)

3 did he kd you all

4 did he shoot more then onec in your duel

5 this one dont mater to much but do you know his templat iv herd of master tk flame 4 going up riflemen alot latly (leaving commando profesion and going to riflemen lol) this could make a big difrence in his defence making him hard to hit with most pistoles at bh0040

thos things if you answer the way i think you may will tell the hole storry

also what is you exat templat is it just bh 0040 if it is you need to do some lvling lol the carb is your best defensive wep

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Srednii

Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:40 pm

#8

Devir92 wrote:
Those numbers just don't add up. After the 75% PvP reduction, the AR 1 armor vs the AP 0 of the flamer, the heat resists of the armor, it's simply not possible to kill a buffed, comp armored player that quickly with a flamer.

These are my thoughts as well.

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peer

Sun Mar 21, 2004 7:42 pm

#9

agreed with the others, that doesn't seem to add up... the armor, I can understand, armor seems to be more "holy" (holey) post patch or something. but the buffs... I didn't think we could do that. Sounds fishy.

Glaxion

Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:49 am

#10

LOL...it is funny you would ask bout the tick for the burn...I didn't even have time to worry about that. That is how fast I went down. Like I said, I have gone up against MANY flame throwers/commandos, and NEVER have I seen this before. Interesting to hear all these other flame throwers out there with similar stats.

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jdfranz

Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:55 am

#11

Druac,

Its too funny you posted here becasue I was going to share your thread from the tarq boards here lol. To help clarify what happened is the commando in question does not have a template. She is a master commando with some dancer skills (yes she used to be a master dancer till I convinced her setting people on fire is much more fun). When Druac and crew attacked I was inour base buying fps for a customer and by the time I got themacro to stop and run outside most of the enemy was dead. I just think she got really lucky on the burn and the poor rebs happened to be bunched together to get hit with the flame o death. Let me just say she was happy as hell and now convinced commando was a great profession to change to.

Krosa

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Lume

Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:47 pm

#12

i just got lucky guys