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Ok...I've tallied up all the stats given to each of the brawler classes so that we can have a one-glance look at how each class stacks up to the other in terms of stats. Of course, I specifically put this together to compare pikemen to the others, but feel free to use it as you wish.

I believe I have all the numbers correct (as of 9/30), but if you see something incorrect, post a correction. And if you have some real stats that will help add to the overall picture, by all means, post an addition. (I had made a nice HTML table, only to find out the forums will allow you to preview tables, but not actually post them...)


All of these stats are what a Master of each class would have, without any other skills.




class|speed|accuracy|melee def|ranged def|toughness|

pikeman|75|110|20|15|26|
swordsman|75|110|20|15|38|
fencer|90|110|24|19|32|
tka|110|145|32|30|57|


In addition, we have the special defenses:



class|blind|dizzy|kd|pc|stun|intim.|equil.|dodge|counter|block|

pikeman|20|40|20|30|30|0|0|0|0|20|
swordsman|10|20|25|10|30|20|0|0|25|0|
fencer|20|20|40|40|0|20|30|25|0|0|
tka|10|5|20|30|15|0|55|0|0|0|



Note: Master Brawler adds +5 to toughness, melee def., ranged def., accuracy and speed for all brawler classes.

Also interesting to note is the ranged classes' melee defenses:

• Rifleman - +20
  
• Pistoleer - +13
  
• Carbineer - +0
  

antares

master pikeman

Arg...I dislike this board's formatting capabilities. I had line breaks in there!

Anyway, I wanted to comment outside of the post to let the stats stand for themselves. One thing I noticed is that pikemen have, of course, the lowest defense stats. However, we have good overall state defense stats. But, I don't know about everyone else, but I get blinded, dizzied, intimidated, stunned, kd'ed and posture changed by every creature that will do these. I'm not sure these defenses work very well.

antares
master pikeman

don't you ever post that again.

do you WANT people to burst into tears?

its best if the ones who actually checked the numbers on defenses and damage keep it under their hat, or EVERY one will leave.

Blind is the stat I have a problem with, we need like +50 to that or something, happens all the time and don't we miss enuff as it is? we are pre-blind.

so how do poeple with a connon (T-21 rifle) have the same melee defense is pikeman?

we get 2.5X damage against them.....so if that +20 means -20%(best case) we still do 2.3X damage. I have looked at their boards and they complain that they have +20 to melee instaed of range.

Nice Table Antares. Thanks for the info.

For those who didn't know already:

Toughness is a percentage damage reducer, almost like natural armor. So if you have 25 polearm toughness, your melee damage taken when you are using a polearm is reduced by 25%.

Melee and ranged defense are miss percentages. So if you have 25 melee damage, a melee attacker should miss you 25% of the time. Same idea for ranged.

At least this is the way it's all supposed to work.

(Thanks opai!)

antares

master pikeman

Here is a great post by jeffinthebox giving all the HAM costs and DPS stats for every pikeman move. Very nice info.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=pikeman&message.id=4867

antares
master pikeman

Seems like all the categories we are highest in, I get most of the time. Blind..dizzy, etc. If it happens that often, like all the time, to Pikemen, what happens to the classes with low or no resists. As for block...nothing good to say.

I have to say that I do block sometimes, I've even seen a couterattack or two in the combat log (although it didn't seem to do anything really). I have had some nice fights with melee'ing NPCs such as tusken raiders, where we were both blocking each other a few times in succession - really sweet to watch. But I've never seen it happen against a creature, and I think it should happen more often than it does.

antares
mster pikeman

Why do TKAs get to be so much better? I want a meditation line, KD, damage increases, etc.as well!

(2H Battlemaster/cleaver on sympathy strike)

interesting to see that the ones we do have the best of ... don't even work