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Thread: Trying to sum up the current CL cert thing for us commando lovers

Kriggo
Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:20 am
#1

So, with everyone with high enough CL (>54)can use any weapon, except bowcaster unless they are wookies.


They will not be as proficient with heavy weapons unless they have commando skills.


So, we are going from "wow, that AT-ST/turret is tough...wish we had a commando or two" to

"EVERYONE take out the rocket launchers and fire at will!!!"


I foresee a lot of people picking up commando 0200 only to take out bases.


I love this profession, I wish we had a role in the CU.



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blacke
Thu Apr 14, 2005 2:25 am
#2

From what I have read, it will not be so when it goes live. Many weapons may be only certed to CL but those weapons that are iconic for a proffesions need a certain skillbox also, namely all commando weapons. Possebly other weapons as well, like loot weapons.






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TerianTwilek
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:14 am
#3

We've all seen these daily changes. It might change again in the following weeks.. I hope it does, anyway.



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Tuscanspeed
Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:24 am
#4

i think the idea is that novice elite weapons and MAYBE a couple others will be certed by skill level. So Bh for instance dont have to grind up bh carbs with a cdef.


this is obviously not finished or working correctly on TC.



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Falrethlfg
Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:06 am
#5

Well i have a geonsion sonic blaster thingie (just picked it up so not sure on its exact name) and says requires pistol tech II to use, which I dont have but I can weild it because of CL.
Thatguyfubu
Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:23 am
#6

Yeah commando's got screwed big time. Dev's said that they took away our specials becuase it is now built into the weapon. Now they give the weapon to everyone. There is no reason at all to even go commando if they keep it this way. Think I am going to say screw the GCW and pick up MBH and MRifles and role play a sniper or something. All this time I have been getting my hopes up of being a Commando and it really meaning something. Oh and BTW the Rebel Assualt armor looked better in the screenshots, I feel like a robot with it on (yes now you can role play a droid with this armor).




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Serenloth
Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:06 am
#7



ok first off im not really sure about what im gana say because i havent tested it yet.


But lets look at the devs logic here. They made certs now so every1 can use any weapons. But u guys are forgetting that even though say some rifleman/BH at cap lvl can hold a plasma FT, he will probably a) Not deal great damage like a master commando. b) Will probably miss a hell of alot, 99% of his shots will miss i assume since he probably will have 0 heavy weapon acc skillmods. So guys Im pretty sure commando are safe and not screwed. Think about it, if the devs wanted every1 to use a commando weapon like a commando, then why do they still have the profession? This lvl cert benefits ppl at low elite lvls, and professions like smug or BH that have pistol, carb skills and only have like 2 or 3 weapons they could use. Now a smug can get another profession beside pistoleer and have all the pistols at his disposal. Anyways thats my opinion on this issue.



Message Edited by Serenloth on 04-14-2005 06:08 AM



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Rathask
Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:12 am
#8

There *is* a difference between commando certs being given away and other profession certs being given away: THE COMMANDO HAS NO SPECIALS.


In order to get rifleman specials, one must pick up the rifleman profession. Sure, anyone of sufficient "level" could use a T-21, but only the Rifleman has the specials to go with it.


In order to get commando specials, on the other hand, all one must do is pick up a commando weapon, which now anyone of sufficient level can do. Meaning there is NOpoint to being commando. Sure, you could get the bonuses to heavy weapons speed and accuracy, but you can get mods that account for the same thing from GENERAL speed and accuracy from other professions. So there's really no reason to bother with commando.


If this is how they plan to work it, they might as well just remove the commando profession from the game, since there's no point in picking it up.



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Kriggo
Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:15 am
#9






blacke wrote:
From what I have read, it will not be so when it goes live. Many weapons may be only certed to CL but those weapons that are iconic for a professions need a certain skillbox also, namely all commando weapons. Possebly other weapons as well, like loot weapons.




I agree all our weapons, or at least most of them fall into this category. Unfortunately this is not the case on TC at the moment, as every single commando weapon goes into category 1 (CL only) at this time.


I do hope they change it. There is still plenty of time. I don't want to rant and rave about the current state of CU, I just hope they change their minds and switch some of them back to category 2.





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Palad
Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:17 am
#10






Rathask wrote:

There *is* a difference between commando certs being given away and other profession certs being given away: THE COMMANDO HAS NO SPECIALS.


In order to get rifleman specials, one must pick up the rifleman profession. Sure, anyone of sufficient "level" could use a T-21, but only the Rifleman has the specials to go with it.


In order to get commando specials, on the other hand, all one must do is pick up a commando weapon, which now anyone of sufficient level can do. Meaning there is NOpoint to being commando. Sure, you could get the bonuses to heavy weapons speed and accuracy, but you can get mods that account for the same thing from GENERAL speed and accuracy from other professions. So there's really no reason to bother with commando.


If this is how they plan to work it, they might as well just remove the commando profession from the game, since there's no point in picking it up.







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commando with no weapon specials/no special weapons useable by no other class=A waste fo skill points. As others have said, general wepon mods by other classes more then compensate for our "special" heavy weapon mods. Not to mention other classes get defensive mods to boot that commandos dont get AND higher speed mods. So potentually a pistoleer/carbaneer could out damage/speed a master commando with his own heavy weapons.




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acaru
Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:30 am
#11

I have just gotta say im glad to see that eveyone that has posted here has not lost there head and gone ove rhte cliff. It is refreshing to see people taking it as it comes and not over reacting to this. Im franky so damn tired of everyone going over the deep end about the curb. So *****'s for all of you. Lets keep up the good discussion.


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Masal
Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:32 am
#12

Ok Im not going to panic. But if anyone can use commando weapons I will be just about sick. I used to be a commando. Decided I wanted to be a human so I deleted my master smuggler commando wookie. Been busy grinding away to master both again before CU and be ready for the fun.


In one way this is everyones fault for complaining about who gets what weapon. Since anyone would be able to say "Well that weapons should have been ours" before. On the other hand just because you can pick up a rocket launcher doesnt mean you would have any clue on how to use it.


I had an interesting talk with someone who was an Alpha tester. Basically he said Alpha never happened and they scrapped everything they worked on for the last year and a half to rush this out to coincide with the new movie. /sigh


I so am wanting to be a commando. I just hope they fix it and get it all right. I will continue to grind away in hopes that one of my two favorite professions turns out ok in the end.
Seriah-EH
Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:45 am
#13

Why dont they just remove all the CDEF weapons and make all novice level certs work for anyone...like they have for ALL WEAPONS...re-add the certs for everything noviceelite and above. Hell, everyone will grind in groups ANYWAYS.




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