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Say a master Commando and master BH (with no other combat skills for either) see each other at max range and start to fight.

Is it possible for a Commando to win the fight?

I've tested this against several master BH and they easily Downdown and Dizzy me and i never get a hit in at all forget get in range for a flame2.

BH just makes a macro for:

Carbine, knockdown;

Carbine, dizzy;

Switch to pistol;

Eyeshot;

Eyeshot;

Eyeshot;

Eyeshot;

Eyeshot;

Eyeshot;

100% victory every time for the BH.

Dang, put CH in heading not BH. Not my day.

If a player has the presence of mind to see a commando coming, then the commando will most likely lose unless he burns some money on a charged weapon. However, apparently most SWG players have the IQ of toast, hence why they end up... as toast. Toast is as toast does.

I agree, so why is it that Commando's don't stand up to all the nerf calls more then then do?

The only way to win against a competent PvP player is to use charged weaponry. Aside from that, there is no way for a Commando to win.However, as was stated, in a head-to-head IQ competetion between an average SWG player and a doorknob your money would be wasted betting on the SWG player.

It's tough for a Commando to beat a BH. That's the only class I loose to, sometimes a Master CH with Two pets. But Most people are oblivious to someone approaching. I swear, ill be camping missions in AH and most of the time the dumb Rebel doesn't even see me standing right in front of him before he opens fire on his misson. (Flame on) DB, then5 to 15 measly Faction pts!

There is a big gaping hole in your premise. No one in this game is going to get master commando and then leave their other 81 skill pts to rot.

Yes, going by just commando skills, the charged weapons are your only recourse. But, why on earth (or dantooine) would you do that? Get some smuggler skills and get your own nockdown and dizzy combo. Then, when they are down, aim and overcharge your flame thrower, which, I might add, you can do at 64 meters with no penalty.

Or, you could go up pistoleer and get all those nice state defenses. And while you are at it, go up TKA and get a pile of ranged defense. Then, every once in a while ( I have not tested it) BHs will miss their KD and just spam eyeshot. Now, eyeshot is devestating, but you can protect agains it. I have a 64% composite helm and (lucky SOB that I am) it has a 41% slice for encumbrance on it. This means, I can take about 15 eyeshots from a BH before I go down. (This one I did test.)

Or, you could use the meditate tree and get power boost and use that after buffing yourself with food or spice and have a godly mind pool. While we are at it. You can just take some ice blasters, scrimpi and muon gold and hold your own against a handfull of mind shots.

I am sure it is obvious by now where I am going with this.

Yes, I know that the question of the post is can a master commando beat a master bounty hunter in pvp. No need to point that out. What apparently needs to be pointed out here is that no class, BH's included stands on its own. I am really sorry for the people around here that want to cling to this idea like it is their holy salvation, but that just is not the case.

-Warning- Drifting off topic into rant. If you have been paying attention, you could see this comming a couple paragraphs ago. Note. This is not directed at the thread topic directly or its author.

GET OVER IT PEOPLE!

Drop this stupid elitist attitude you have about "Master Titles". It seems, all anyone wants to do is run around complaining about how their profession is cooler then the next guys. Or complaining that it is unfair that some other profession has a skill or ability they don't. These people don't care that the game is unbalanced except where it makes them weaker then another player. That is why commandos got hit with the melee modifier and why BHs may have eyeshot moved to master. Not because there was somthing terribly wrong(because we all know there were other, more reasonable fixes to these issues), but because other players throw a fit when they perceive somone having somthing they don't. They act like little children who forget about their toys till somone else picks them up. In this case though, they are so caught up with being "Master Commando" that they have to see themselves as being the best for any situation. And they can't handle the thought that the best skill for a specific situation is in another profession. And here is the really, really stupid part...Instead of tailoring their player template to get the skills they want, they come to the boards and whine day after day that it is so unfair that commandos can do 5k damage, why can't I? Bounty hunters can hit an unhealable pool, why cant I? Melee characters have so much more defense then me, boo hooo!

NO ONE PROFESSION IS GOING TO GET TO DO IT ALL> ACCEPT IT, OR MOVE ON.

The biggest problem from all this though, is that these same people are the ones that jump back and forth between profession boards and cry about what they don't have and gloat when somthing goes bad for another class. This is not helping anything. It just perpetuates the problem and makes it worse.

We should be supportive of the other classes and spend our time trying to make them and us better. Cause lets face it, even at master commando you have a pile of pts left over. What are you going to do with them after you have goaded the Devs into applying the nerf bat to almost every usefull skill in the game. Cause that is what is going to happen.

Whine - Commandos do too much damage in pvp. Nerf

Whine - BH eyeshot is too powerful. Nerf

What do you suppose comes next?

Whine - Smuggler/Carbine KD + Dizzy is too powerful. Nerf

Whine - Combat Medics now rule pvp. Nerf

Whine - I cant compete without doctor buffs. Nerf

One more time in case you missed it.

NO SINGLE PROFESSION IS GOING TO BE THE BEST FOR EVERY SITUATION> THE MORE YOU SPECIALZE, THE BIGGER YOUR WEAKNESSES ARE GOING TO BE.

Now, I think the above statement is pretty clear, but I am sure that there will be plenty of people who don't get it. Or that don't want to except it. Trouble is, it is the truth.

I apologize again to the thread poster. This was not aimed at you. Your post was just close enough to this topic to get me thinking about it.

Flame away. I am a commando, I am used to the heat.

There is a way!

get smuggler dirty fighting

Launcher Pistol - Panicshot (delays the opp 10 sec)

Lauccher Pitsol -Lowblow

Flamer - Single2

Just dont miss with panicshot! hehe

Put a helmet on.

CH's used to die fast, but now have become a little more dificult, the pets hit for more mele dmg thanks to the rifleman mods we got.But there are hardly any pets that last long enough, and most of the times the master goes down, i db, then pet burns down.

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Launcher Pistol - Panicshot (delays the opp 10 sec)

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Warcry does a 10 sec delay also.

Uh...I don't get this whole discussion.

/fireheavyweapon

BH dead

Problem solved

Yes, it does cost credits...but you knew that when you signed up to be a commando right?

Buzzy

Master Commando, Chilastra

64m

SHIFT+F6 - Fires Rocket Launcher

Nuff said