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Thread: New DXR6 Rifle = AR2 while our HAR = AR0. Something's gotta change.

SuperTurbo
Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:00 am
#1

Yup, new DXR6 rifle (Acid damage)from the Geonasian (sp?) caves is an AR2 rifle. Hopefully, our Heavy Acid Rifle gets AR3 as part of the promised fix.


Personally, I like the look of walking around with the HAR equiped.



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SuperTurbo
Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:23 am
#2

www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=setandget&tp=43875&poll_id=0&category_id=19&warned=y


Screen shot of a Krayt tissued DXR6B disruptor rifle.


Doesn't that make us Commando's blood boil? Makes me want to take up Rifleman simply to use such new weapon that's very much a Commando type suppression weapon.



SuperTurbo, DO
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TechnoHic
Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:56 am
#3

**edit**?! looks like our FT in stats almost except AP2 and with rifleman specials that work at 64m and its accurate at mid range. Oh sure, no burn but with AR2 and targeting the mind pool at that high of damage who cares, especially now?


looks like they took some of our ideas for the HAR and gave it to the rifleman, no offense to rifleman, we were just robbed.





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RankorCity
Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:50 am
#4






TechnoHic wrote:

ideas for the HAR and gave it to the rifleman, no offense to rifleman, we were just robbed.








Yup



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Yrega
Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:53 am
#5


WHAT THE HELL?! Now no one will be able to touch riflemen, thats like the old T21 Rifles were, way way too powerful to be able to use from 64m away.... can you say... 1500 mind head shot?


For the record... this ROYALLY F[edit]ING SUCKS



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RankorCity
Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:18 am
#6






Yrega wrote:


WHAT THE HELL?! Now no one will be able to touch riflemen, thats like the old T21 Rifles were, way way too powerful to be able to use from 64m away.... can you say... 1500 mind head shot?


For the record... this ROYALLY F[edit]ING SUCKS



-Yrega Darkstrider (Master Commando/ Teras Kasi Master)


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As an aside, the rifle in that screenie does have a power up, not sure if its a speed or dam one (guessing it is dam).


Nevertheless, we got it straight up the wazoo....AGAIN




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Ster
Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:01 am
#7

So I guess the question is... who needs a commando for AP when you have a rifleman around?



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Halmet
Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:17 am
#8

Ive seen HARs upwards of 700-800 dmg so thats not really an issue. Are weapon is still more powerfull.


Whats wrong with this picture is the AP. Considering ours is a HEAVY acid rifle we need at least AP3 considering that a rifle gets AP2.



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TechnoHic
Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:50 am
#9






Halmet wrote:

Ive seen HARs upwards of 700-800 dmg so thats not really an issue. Are weapon is still more powerfull.


Whats wrong with this picture is the AP. Considering ours is a HEAVY acid rifle we need at least AP3 considering that a rifle gets AP2.






Yeah but look at the speed, its much faster than what the HAR would be even fixed so that alone makes up the diference in damage then its AP2. Its more devestating than the T21 IMHO since the T21 has a slow speed. At least the ones I saw.



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Halmet
Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:54 am
#10






TechnoHic wrote:





Halmet wrote:

Ive seen HARs upwards of 700-800 dmg so thats not really an issue. Are weapon is still more powerfull.


Whats wrong with this picture is the AP. Considering ours is a HEAVY acid rifle we need at least AP3 considering that a rifle gets AP2.






Yeah but look at the speed, its much faster than what the HAR would be even fixed so that alone makes up the diference in damage then its AP2. Its more devestating than the T21 IMHO since the T21 has a slow speed. At least the ones I saw.





True.



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ZyrokYikre
Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:00 am
#11

Ok, yeah, I think I would have to agree. This looks exactly like what we should have had to replace the POS that is the Acid Rifle...



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thepunisher286
Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:01 am
#12

It's funny realy... Play with a master rifleman. Watch the combat log, and have the timestamp enabled... look how fast they shoot normaly, and how fast they shoot off specials.

Next, come back and post the ressults. Commandos will be enraged. A master rifleman will very very easily outdamage master commando with a HAR on ap3/2. Speed is hardly an issue for my master rifleman friend. Hes only concerned on the damage stats on his t21 and he says his skill modifiers allow him to shoot realy fast regardless of the rifle speed.


He picked up a stock of t21 rifles, about 10 of them, got them all sliced. sold every one of them exept the ones with perfect damage slices, puts a dmg powerup and runs off to kill. Now, they reached past 600dmg. With specials, AP3, speed modifiers, its a devastating weapon. I have watched him take out mind buffed people in the 3k's. I recently saw a screen shot of him incaping a man in ALL 3 STATS! He used advanced strafe shot, landed every shot for over 1k dmg. I'll try to post the screenshot when i get the chance...
zenixoda
Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:25 am
#13

is this alrdy in game or is it in the next patch?



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