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Thread: Elenora is sabotaging the CM and going for nerf. Please read / bump if you agree. Save the class!

jfergie
Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:26 am
#1

Please, vote 1 on all Elenora posts you see. It only takes a second, and if you believe her posts merit it, please vote 1. For some reason she is out to ruin the class. Please stop her if you like this class.


We have all worked hard to get the points for this class. I can only assume others feel as sick as I do to see Elenora using LOS exploits to get cheap points. Even she will agree she has AOE poisoned cantinas when they couldn't possibly see her or attack back. She has recently posted a thread on how to kill people using LOS exploits. She is using doctor level poisons most CMs cannot make, then going out and exploiting and people are beginning to cry nerf. Then they come here and see she is also crying nerf.


This madness has to stop. If Elenora were to actually attack an enemy that could see her, the result would probably be different. Not saying she would lose everytime, but she definitely would not win everytime. Right now, she wins every single time because she is cheating. We don't need a nerf. We need a LOS bug fix. That's all. And we need Elenora to change classes or try to play fair.

Arkon_Liie
Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:31 am
#2

Well I half agree half disagree-


LOS is not a bug and never was.Our ability to deal damage sucks pretty bad compared topeople using 1/4 the skill points. LOS is not enough even to give us a decent return on our skillpoints.As a master combat medic I can say that our damage ability sucks.


Elenora trying to nerf us - it seems like she used to be vocal about nerfing us but has toned down since everyone obviously disagrees with her. Also not a fan of her doctor ability that she pretends is part of combat medic to say we own. Combat Medics should NOT need to be doctors too.




-Ketaken Liie
MycroftTHan
Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:35 am
#3

i've been quite on this issue untill now, but this witch hunt is starting to get out of control.


Elly has some very valid points and it is her right to post them, just as it is your right to complain about her.


She is not the average Combat Medic, she is not even the average high-end Combat Medic but as much as she is posting her -biased - issues, there are as much people running around bashing her for it and both sides need to stop this. I rated Your post with '1' for this very reason.

jfergie
Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:39 am
#4

I agree we shouldn't have to be docs too. Docs get to use their medic abilities. We don't. We should since we branch from the same line imho.


As for Elenora toning down, I haven't seen it. I just saw her do a big thread on how to abuse LOS. I personally consider it an exploit. If I can sit outside a cantina and aoe poison everyone inside and then run away I think that should be changed.


Elenora seems as vocal as ever. I personally am about capped on med points right now. Not training until I see what happens. I wish Elenora would switch classes or we all vote her posts down.


I need to train CM or Doc soon, and I am not going Master CM until I see which way the wind blows with Elenora. She is trying to nerf our class. I don't think anyone will disagree with that.

jfergie
Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:40 am
#5






MycroftTHan wrote:

bashing her for it and both sides need to stop this. I rated Your post with '1' for this very reason.






Well, I welcome your opinions and hope everyone votes their conscience, but find it odd you would vote a 1 on someone trying to stop the nerfs as opposed to someone trying to bring unneeded nerfs by using exploits. But, all opinions welcome. Glad you expressed yours.
MycroftTHan
Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:58 am
#6

i voted 1 on the witch hunt. that's the difference.
Indalamar
Fri Aug 22, 2003 5:03 am
#7

I made a similar post on one of the forums about this already but I'll give yall the short form. If you at any point ever have a thread in your class forum that has anything to do with nurfing, it's too late and you WILL get a nurf in the near future. That's the summarized explination. Think it through and if you have any real mmorpg experience you will know it's true.

jfergie
Fri Aug 22, 2003 5:03 am
#8

I feel like Elenora with all these posts. I just happen to still be here and seeing this, so know this is unusual.


I am not on a witch hunt. I think Elenora has some good posts. But, I think most of her posts are very biased based on how she plays the game. She uses doctor poisons and doesn't let the enemy see her. So, consider it an exploit or not, she does it.


Many of us don't play that way. She is actively trying to get us nerfed, when a simple change of LOS or something else will do. She is using what I am calling exploits and hundreds of posts to stir things up to where I think they will do a huge undeserved nerf to this class.


Do you disagree? I would love to hear your opinions on this matter. Do you think she is helping the class with her past dozen posts?


I agree everyone should be heard, but she has been. Hundreds of times already. She is on a crusade to destroy the class as far as I can see. Please tell me how you disagree.

IlyaMasool
Fri Aug 22, 2003 5:18 am
#9

Uggg.... Can't belive some of you folks.


As I understand it, this is open forum. All you are allowed to post whatever you want for whatever reason.


MOST readers would prefer if you have an opinion that you actually believe in, write a post about it, and hopefully have couple of what you would consider valid points.


Only person who should be kicked about is someone who belive/know something to be false, then still argue for it just to generating more post. I don't think Elenora does that. No matter how stupid I think her views are, it looks like to me she really believe that she say, and that makes everything she say as valid as anything I or anyone else might post say.


I really hate when she say things like they should take healing damage ability away from doctor and just make them stay in medical center. It makes my blood boil but heck she seem to honestly believe that and think that'd make not only CM better, but make the game flow more smoother so I don't mind she saying it. She is creazy as lute, but she can say it.


Anyway, kinda hit me as strange you folks ganging up on her for not doing anything wrong.

LuciusClay
Fri Aug 22, 2003 5:21 am
#10

I will have to agree. I have read all of her posts on this matter very carefully before I say what I'm about to say. Elenora just likes to hear Elenora complain. I really, really, really wish she would drop all medical skills and go nerf architects or something. Or class struggles as it is and we don't need one of our own sabotaging us. Every online multiplayer game has this group and that group complaing about how each other is too powerful. Never before in over 5 years of this type of game have I heard someone say they wanted themselves nerfed and at the same time give ABSOLUTLEY NO VALID REASON FOR IT. I think that if she doesn't like what a CM can do with their hard earned skills then she shouldn't be one. Of course it's always the loudest crier that gets their way so I guess we are already on the chopping block anyway. She owes each and every combat medic in SWG a very sincere apology and the best way for her to help us out is to cancel her account. Perhaps when she is done tailoring OUR proffesion to fit HER needs then we can get some things fixed that really need it, like why my factory still doesn't work after 2 weeks.
SeductiveAsia11
Fri Aug 22, 2003 5:27 am
#11

I think the point is she is claiming to be the god of pvp and asking for nerfs to the class when she is using exploits. If they fix the exploits AND attempt to balance the class at thesame time, CMs are screwed until the next balancing pass if ever.


Elenora is using exploits and also calling for nerfs based on how she is performing in pvp. As near as I can see she is calling for an end to LOS and a reduction in poison. Is this correct?


If LOS requirements are not lifted and the poison is left the same, then CMs are just griefers in town, so I can't see this happening.


Depending on the reduction in poison, and if it is LOS now, will there still be a reason to use poison? If not, what is the point of the CM class. I personally see an over-nerf coming in some part based on Elenora, who for some unknown reason wants to nerf the class she plays.

Zarlor
Fri Aug 22, 2003 5:33 am
#12

Just a clarification, from what I have been reading of El's posts she is suggesting EITHER a nerf of LoS OR a reduction of only Mind Poisons. No other poisons are mentioned by her for reduction that I have seen.



Zarlor - Mesric City, Dantooine - Eclipse
Arissi Plains, Dantooine - Test Center
PlasticBoy
Fri Aug 22, 2003 5:49 am
#13

Yeah, I think Zarlor has it right as far as Elenora's position goes. Here are some quotes from what I think is her original nerf thread:

personally i think mind dots are way to overpowered and need to be brought down to reasonable levels...150 on aoe and 200 on single...right now im ridiculously powerful...

and

Would love to keep the non LOS nature of dots tho, they are very cool as a tactical weapon for sieges or large battles and city warfare...but seriously the damage needs to be downgraded...Like someone said in a post here i dont want an uber profession,I want a working one...


Regarding Elenora's right to post, as long as people keep starting threads with titles like "Elenora is ruining CM" I think she has a right to respond. As far as I see she hasn't started any new threads on the issue lately, only responded to other peoples' threads, so I'm not sure what you're complaining about.



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