Combat Medic Archive
Thread: I feel bad for CM's
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SEGEEK
Thu Mar 04, 2004 10:02 am
#1
The nerf cry has started and it will only get worst, my prediction is that after the def stacking gets nerfed, you will see an exploision in the combat medic profession size. I have seen this pattern before, combat adjustments made, and everybody runs to the next best thing (in this case to do good in pvp, you either def stack or are a combat medic), if def stacking is gone, i think you will see a huge number of combat medics and doctors around. Once you get a ton of combat medics, you get the focus of the devs (usually a bad thing), the nerf cries will come out more and then as you watch your profession get swamped with n00bs that grind master so fast they dont know what they are doing, that will ruin the profession for you. I have lived through a couple of these on galaxies, but take heart, after they nerf you, you will get power back, such is the nature of things. You get an over nerf, then they slowly add back to your power.
Its too bad that in order to balance things they gotta nerf everybody to the same level instead of bringing others up. For instance i have a problem with a combat medic being more accurate with a tossed poision frorm 70m out (i know its not common) than i am with my rifle (which cant even shoot that far). Instead of calling for nerfs on combat medic, i think rifles should be improved to compensate (i would like to shoot further than others can throw, and i think rifles should have more range than pistols). But for the most part there is a balance to everything, if you get tired of being poisoned and disesed, become a doctor, dont ask the devs to step in and weaken the combat medics.
Oh well ill end my rant, I feel bad for those of you that choose combat medic because you like the profession, you will probably have a lot of people join your band wagon and cause nerfs to happen.
-Hey You {Bria}
TKM/ master rifleman
Achilles467
Thu Mar 04, 2004 10:18 am
#2
Yeah, I want 450 bleeds that can only be healed by docs. I want my shots to ignore LOS and all armor. I want to be able to hit ppl at 100+ meters too.
P.S. I findironicthat you call ppl n00bs when you're a TKM/Rifleman.
Combat medic is so overpowered
Achilles467
Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:31 pm
#4
Not worth it.
Message Edited by Achilles467 on 03-04-2004 02:32 PM
jkray8472
Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:35 pm
#5
Ouch. OMG! I got pwned by a CM with a dps of 73.5!!!!!
Sorry, just thought I'd paraphrase all you guys. B/c without any spider venom, that's what a high-level triple-advanced single poison C pack ticks at... 73 dps.
Both TKM and Rifleman can deal easily 10x that damage...
ThrawnAram
Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:54 pm
#6
Achilles467 wrote:Not worth it.Message Edited by Achilles467 on 03-04-2004 02:32 PM
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nef2005
Thu Mar 04, 2004 6:05 pm
#7
Achilles467 wrote:
Yeah, I want 450 bleeds that can only be healed by docs. I want my shots to ignore LOS and all armor. I want to be able to hit ppl at 100+ meters too.
P.S. I findironicthat you call ppl n00bs when you're a TKM/Rifleman.
Hey if you would like to surrender all the other attacks that you have with your profession I'm absolutley sure that something could be arranged. Please try to refrain from the nerf crying.
Aigar
ThrawnAram
Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:20 am
#8
Achilles467 wrote:Yeah, I want 450 bleeds that can only be healed by docs. I want my shots to ignore LOS and all armor. I want to be able to hit ppl at 100+ meters too.
P.S. I findironicthat you call ppl n00bs when you're a TKM/Rifleman.
How is a TKM Rifleman a noob?
RCS37
Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:33 am
#9
You’re all missing the point and are obviously so biased that you say anything no matter how absurd to keep your profession from getting nerved.
/sarcasm
First of all yeah combat medics disserve to get a pass on the whole 75% reduction and should be dominating in combat I mean after all you all had to get ranged support line. Wow what a major freaking combat profession your are.
/sarcasm off
Look at the type of exp you have to get to gain your cm skills, Medical crafting, and medical experience and somehow your entire medical experience and crafting gives you the ability to have terrain nav. A scout skills and killer biological weapons that never miss, aren’t reduced 75% in pvp and seem to be able to be thrown at 80-90 meters.
Get a life you talk about dps but do you consider the affect 75-85% armor has on dps? Do you count the fact you can target the mind pool specifically? Did you factor in the chance that all other attacks have a good chance to miss? Omg you fools don’t get it.
Soon all the people who play this game just to be the flavor of the week will all be cm’s once stacking is nerfed.
Feel bad? Why do you think everyone is gonna go cm? its not because of that great cm health benefits its because your so powerful in pvp that as long as you get cm’s and a awesome mind poison/disease you can own at pvp.
Its funny cm gets one line of combat skills and somehow there the most powerful pvp combat profession out there, and if you guys still think commandos or bh’s are more powerful your apparently don’t pvp that much.
And please for the love of god please explain how crafting meds makes you better able to navigate terrain because as a master scout i would love to hear it.
P.S. my references to fool or stupid people is reserved to people who still believe cm’s aren’t that powerful and aren’t creating a huge unbalance in pvp fighting.
/sarcasm
First of all yeah combat medics disserve to get a pass on the whole 75% reduction and should be dominating in combat I mean after all you all had to get ranged support line. Wow what a major freaking combat profession your are.
/sarcasm off
Look at the type of exp you have to get to gain your cm skills, Medical crafting, and medical experience and somehow your entire medical experience and crafting gives you the ability to have terrain nav. A scout skills and killer biological weapons that never miss, aren’t reduced 75% in pvp and seem to be able to be thrown at 80-90 meters.
Get a life you talk about dps but do you consider the affect 75-85% armor has on dps? Do you count the fact you can target the mind pool specifically? Did you factor in the chance that all other attacks have a good chance to miss? Omg you fools don’t get it.
Soon all the people who play this game just to be the flavor of the week will all be cm’s once stacking is nerfed.
Feel bad? Why do you think everyone is gonna go cm? its not because of that great cm health benefits its because your so powerful in pvp that as long as you get cm’s and a awesome mind poison/disease you can own at pvp.
Its funny cm gets one line of combat skills and somehow there the most powerful pvp combat profession out there, and if you guys still think commandos or bh’s are more powerful your apparently don’t pvp that much.
And please for the love of god please explain how crafting meds makes you better able to navigate terrain because as a master scout i would love to hear it.
P.S. my references to fool or stupid people is reserved to people who still believe cm’s aren’t that powerful and aren’t creating a huge unbalance in pvp fighting.
Harkyn1
Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:49 am
#10
My BEST poison, the best I can make with current resources (and by current I mean the last 2 months) does 285 pts every 8 seconds. The guy shooting me is doing 1k+ every second, or 3k+ with TKA up close. The furthest I can throw it is 60m.... 100m?!?! WHERE THE HECK DID YOU GET THAT #?!? Stop the damm whining and play the game, you dont like it, go play KOTOR and turn on /godmode......
Geez.....
RCS37
Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:55 am
#11
yeah well you must suck as a cm because im contanyl hit by cm's on kett that have 600-700 dots posions to my mind, also your only getting hit for 1k or more is due to the fact you didnt buy a nice set of composite armor or your a wookie sorry wooks you need so love but thats a whole other topic.
You guys talk about dps do you factor the dps when cm poisons hit 20-30 people at once, due you factor your dps when other profetions face mitigration reduction, 75% pvp reduction, 80% armor reduction, and a chance to miss?
You guys talk about dps do you factor the dps when cm poisons hit 20-30 people at once, due you factor your dps when other profetions face mitigration reduction, 75% pvp reduction, 80% armor reduction, and a chance to miss?
Loonytic
Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:54 am
#12
RCS37 wrote:
yeah well you must suck as a cm because im contanyl hit by cm's on kett that have 600-700 dots posions to my mind, also your only getting hit for 1k or more is due to the fact you didnt buy a nice set of composite armor or your a wookie sorry wooks you need so love but thats a whole other topic.
You guys talk about dps do you factor the dps when cm poisons hit 20-30 people at once, due you factor your dps when other profetions face mitigration reduction, 75% pvp reduction, 80% armor reduction, and a chance to miss?
omg i can't believe you don't understand why the DEVs have never put in a 75% reduction, a standard 600 damage10 second tick poison does 60 DPS apply 75% reduction thats a massive 15 DPS (and you want a further 80% armor reduction as well?? lol).. your mind will regen normallythe damagequicker than the poison can damage the HAM... sure we can hit a million people at once and cause a massive 15000000 DPS and we'll still do 0 damage to everyone.
why do we never miss? poison is resisted but only the CM will get the message.. another reason is we've got to stand still for a full 4 seconds to apply the poison and wait a further 10 seconds before any damage is done, but fine you want us to miss like everyone else get rid of the throwing animation so we can run and fire (like everyone else)let us spam specials(like everyone else) and i'd like the poison to do damage the instant its applied and not have to wait 10 seconds.
RCS37
Fri Mar 05, 2004 9:32 am
#13
you miss understand me i dont think armr should effect a poison at all im saything that armor and mitigration dramatically reduce the actuall dps of say a tka doing damage. You guys talk about dps and all that stuff look i dont need dps numbers to know that most cm's that pvp use good poisons that do roughly 500-600 dmg a tick to the mind, now after a 75% reduction thats a good 125-150 tick to the mind thats still danm good. Add a mind diseace that would do about 50-75 (im not exaclty sure on the disease numbers i just know there lower than poisons).
Here is a question since you claim that cm's are overpowered that there not that great and that your dps means so much why is it in every battle i see no days it always determed by who had the cm with the best mind poison/disease.
You guys make it sound like al the other combat profestions can jsut unload 1k per second on anyone but you fail to take in account that most of the time were lucky to get a hit of 100-200 points of damage per second on a random pool with armor and mitigration. Take my attack with my LLC i can hit about on average 5000 damage in pve using LS1 thats about 1250 in pvp now reduce it by another 74% due to armor it now 325, now since a llc hardly can fire a special move every sencon im hitting about 325 every 3 seconds, now also factor in accuracy and my oponents ranged defences and Dodge,Counter Attack,and Block, now there is a very good chance i will miss a shot that will tak way one oh may attack rounds and cost me another 3 seconds beofre i can shot again. now lets say im using a pistol and attacking with eye shot i usally get a hit of 1k in pve so thats gonan be about 250 in pvp now factor in armor at around 74% and holly freakin hell im hitting at a whoping 65 points of damage. and once again i have to worry about missing and so on, not mention i didnt even factior in ranged mitigration which would reduce my max dmg on my gun by 60%.
But no cm's are just so danm special you get to unload your dot attack and not worry about accuracy, not worry about mitigration, not worry about armor, not worry about 75% reduction and you wonder why the hell everyone is going cm/riffleman.
CM'S ARE HAVING A HUGE POPLUALTION BOOM FOR A REASON, PEOPLE ARE CRYING FOR NERFS FOR A REASON
ITS BECAUSE YOUR OVERPOWERED!!!! GET A CLUE.
Here is a question since you claim that cm's are overpowered that there not that great and that your dps means so much why is it in every battle i see no days it always determed by who had the cm with the best mind poison/disease.
You guys make it sound like al the other combat profestions can jsut unload 1k per second on anyone but you fail to take in account that most of the time were lucky to get a hit of 100-200 points of damage per second on a random pool with armor and mitigration. Take my attack with my LLC i can hit about on average 5000 damage in pve using LS1 thats about 1250 in pvp now reduce it by another 74% due to armor it now 325, now since a llc hardly can fire a special move every sencon im hitting about 325 every 3 seconds, now also factor in accuracy and my oponents ranged defences and Dodge,Counter Attack,and Block, now there is a very good chance i will miss a shot that will tak way one oh may attack rounds and cost me another 3 seconds beofre i can shot again. now lets say im using a pistol and attacking with eye shot i usally get a hit of 1k in pve so thats gonan be about 250 in pvp now factor in armor at around 74% and holly freakin hell im hitting at a whoping 65 points of damage. and once again i have to worry about missing and so on, not mention i didnt even factior in ranged mitigration which would reduce my max dmg on my gun by 60%.
But no cm's are just so danm special you get to unload your dot attack and not worry about accuracy, not worry about mitigration, not worry about armor, not worry about 75% reduction and you wonder why the hell everyone is going cm/riffleman.
CM'S ARE HAVING A HUGE POPLUALTION BOOM FOR A REASON, PEOPLE ARE CRYING FOR NERFS FOR A REASON
ITS BECAUSE YOUR OVERPOWERED!!!! GET A CLUE.
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