Combat Medic Archive

Thread: This cute little trick needs to be fixed.

slabby
Mon Mar 29, 2004 8:23 am
#1

I'm not here to whine about CM's poisons. Hey that's what you guys and gals do. It's our job to stop you from doing it.


But, it has now come to my attention (Thanks in part to a griefing guild on my server) that it's possible to "bypass" the PVP "NO DECAY" rule by using CM Poison to "triple incap" you and if nobody shoots or db's you, guess what? You get decay. Certain CM's are using this as the only way to kill people so that they suffer decay (which really stinks when you save a month or two for PVP armor.)


I feel that this should be pushed up as one of the major issues that the CM Correspondant pushes for a fix. CM's are pretty unpopular right now, and a bug like this being fixed is in EVERYONE's best interest.


Thanks



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carruthers
Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:06 am
#2

hmmm triple incap u say - I thought your stats stopped at +1 !!!



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slabby
Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:14 am
#3

Not on poisons. At least that's what it seems. It doesn't act like every other DOT in the game.



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carruthers
Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:24 am
#4

not so - poisons will leave ur health at +1 read the post on the 75% reduction below confirms poisons stop at +1 to stats!



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Omegafield
Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:26 am
#5

If some of the CM on your server are doing that they are using the poison + Disease to triple incap.


If you poison and disease the same stat it will incap the player if neither state is cured by a doc.( or meditated away.)



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WookieOgre
Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:40 am
#6






carruthers wrote:
hmmm triple incap u say - I thought your stats stopped at +1 !!!





Well I was trippled incaped by posion/disease stack. I couldnt do anything and the smug little CM just sat of the floor and watched me get incapped 3 times.......this needs to be fixed because I did get decay when cloned.
Sleksheea
Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:30 pm
#7

A good reason why the DEV's won't fix this is because it's a good money sink... they LOVE decay!



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Rchuno
Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:35 pm
#8

Personaly I do to. That is I love decay. I think there should be more decay out there than there is already. I was fine with the 5% decay because it forced someone to pay out the nose for Uber armor. It kind of levels the playing field a little but not all the way. Anyway I think that disease should disapear on an incapp. Not poison but disease I think would be a good one to remove upon incapacitation.



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JudasTyberius
Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:09 pm
#9

I think this is an ovbious bug. I would not call it an exploit, but it is somewhat of a grief. Problem being, this is our only set of weapons.


In PvP, i usually DB just before the 2nd incap is over, so as to prevent the decay on the other player. I hate decay, and thus I almost exclusively fight when overt, and in PvP. This is almost as bad as forcing someone into pvp. Maybe worse.





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slabby
Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:38 pm
#10

It is an exploit when people do it because of that reason. Using a known bug to manipulate the game is exploiting and this trick definatly falls into that category. Only the Griefing Guild on our server does this, so I'd say that it's an exploit.



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Sleksheea
Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:48 pm
#11

It is NOT an exploit. Just a bug. That would be like saying that if a TKA used2 different kinds of VibroKnucklers he's exploiting, regardless of any non-intentional outcome from using that combo. It's his onlyoption to keep from being a 1 trick pony. I agree that DIsease+Poison in the same pool should not incap... POISON ALONE SHOULD INCAP JUST LIKE INTENDED IN THE GOOD 'OL DAYS!! Or just combine combat medic and doctor into the same profession.



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Morganite
Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:16 pm
#12

Hehe, I use this quite often as anti-TEF tactics. You almost have how you do it to get this anytime right, very close, but not exactly...



While the guy is laying there, I tell him i want his word that he wont tef or gtef me anytime in the future, or he will get triple-incap decay anytime/everytime I see him/her in the future. Overt people I tell my guys to make sure they dont get decay, btu they get a triple incap no decay death as well. TEF or group tef, you get this every single time from me and my boys.



Is it dirty? maybe, but I never said I was a nice guy. Is it an bug? probably. Should it be fixed? once they remove TEF from the game, most certainly, but if you dont have the stones to "play overt" this is a nice counterbalance for ensuring you get the first shot in.





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RhenGordon
Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:33 am
#13

This is remnant of why we got the +1 poison change in the first place.


Not sure what the answer is, the matter has been brought up and is on the list. I doubt you will see any changes though. *shrug*



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