Combat Medic Archive

Thread: YOUR complaints about CMs

jlach
Thu Dec 04, 2003 10:50 am
#1

Tho I have not reached combat medic yet (just waiting on the apprentice points i need) i do think i can make a fair judement by saying most of you have the class all wrong, in my opinion. I am not trying to flame ANYONE, so just hear me out. When i think combat medic, i think more of a 'field medic' in RL war. Im sure most of us dont know what war is like, so lets take a movie (not the best example, but it works with what im trying to say). Lets take Blackhawk Down. Those field medics out there were not able to take on a group of 5 enimies by himself. He was out there to help the wounded, and had a gun JUST to protect himself when needed, and support his fellow brothers when needed. I think everyone expects us to be a FULL combat class, but if that was the case, we should ahve to master marksman, and do one tree in medic. IMO, we are a support class. We should not be able to solo anything (not including pets) thats semi-strong, human or creature. We are suited for groups, we can annoy the enemy with poisions and disease, while keeping our side healed. And about the no FP (in PvP), take a day and just do missions, you'll rack in the FP. I've got over 1k extra rebel points and i've only been playing this char for about a week or so.


I don't feel alot of the complaints you guys have is fair to the devs. we are NOT commandos or BHs. We are MEDICS who can shoot a gun. Thats the class, medic = support, gun = defense. We support our side while defending ourselfs. If you want to be able to solo a group of 10 Imps, drop Cm and pick up Commando. We are out there to help on the field. We are medics outside the med center, plain and simple.

Kyller_Relic
Thu Dec 04, 2003 10:54 am
#2

LOL, nothing personal, but its hard to take someone serious when he isnt even in the profession yet, let a long been a master for at least a month or so...



Though you have a couple of valid points... but I dont feel like going into it




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jlach
Thu Dec 04, 2003 10:56 am
#3

I've stated to not know too much abotu the class. But i know much about the game, being here since the first day of live. I've played many classes, TKA, Ranger, CH, and some entertainer. But its an easy class to figure out, think of the name, and associate with life. Combat Medic, a medic in combat... atleast thats what school tought me but that was just my thoughts on the class, and what i expect it to be...
jlach
Thu Dec 04, 2003 11:01 am
#4

woops, these boards need an edit feature. About my comment to not being fair to the devs. I say that, because well, i myself am a developer, so I am kinda partial to them. Because i HATE being flamed by people i dotn know because of a bug, when you have 10000000 (a number that im sure relates to swg, eheh) more bugs before that one. I dont claim to know much about the class at all... so i should of clearified that my post is what i am expecting to be doing....
Agent001
Thu Dec 04, 2003 11:57 am
#5

in a month, after you have gone insane from resource gathering, let us know if your still so chipper about CM
ZenTripper
Thu Dec 04, 2003 12:13 pm
#6

Ya, and my other class is a fencer. Ya fencer. And low and behold my main weapon is a bent pipe.


Your description of the class is flawed, just read the holocron. This class has offensive capabitities as well, with the ability to create grenades that cause DOT damage.


And if that isn't enough proff look at the titles. One being "Chemical Warfare Expert" and the other being "Toxicologist". That speaks weapons of mass destruction.. i.e. Area Diseases and Area Poisons.


jlach
Thu Dec 04, 2003 2:51 pm
#7

First off, i specifically stated I didn't know much about the profession, and I wasent flaming.. but it seems you people on these boards can do nothing more then flame. And about the money, I agree that could be a problem without a combat class helping you. The resources, my guild provided all the resources i need for meds through medic, and will continue to do so. So to me, I don't need as much money. but goto a bigger planet like dant or dath, you get money for JUST being in the group, dont need to kill anything. So theres your payoff... i make about 6k a mission on dath in a group of 4, thats two missions each. (4 x 2) x 6 = 32k. You can do about 16 missions in about 2 hours. Its safe money if you play it right, you never have to see combat. Pretty easy money if you ask me... thats just my opinion. But personally, i see my pay off as having fun. I am one of the few people in this game (from my experiences on Ahalzi, and I'll admit its not the best server) thats not worried about th emoney. I'd rather have fun, and just enough money to fly around, then to worry every day about wheres my 100k for that day is comming from. either way, i wasent looking to be flamed, or claiming to know everything, i was simply stating my opinion, and what i expected from the class
TheAddler
Thu Dec 04, 2003 3:17 pm
#8

Sorry, I didn't mean to say you were flaming, or flame you. But again I think you are missing the point. You just said people suppy you with the resources. I don't have the luxury. And until you do it, you can not believe the amount of time and effort it takes to travel to all the planets to harvest all the resources simply to make our meds. I know how much money I can make on missions. And I know thats a good way. But these are resources I must harvest. Dantooine Berries. Talus water. Tantooine Fiberplast. Lokian weat. Herbavore meat. Petro Chem. And I have Solar harvestors to make the power for that. You can't believe how long it takes to make the harvest runs on these. Or the amount of money to put into maintanence to keep them running.


I know it sounds like it, but I am really not complaining. I will not give up Master CM. I really do love it.Its just a very hard class for supporting itself. As BH I Could have nocive medic and still heal great and be great in battle. As CH you level by simply having pets out during battle. Want a new pet? How much does it cost? Oh yeah, free. Doctors, Need some money? I Buff people for 5k for the set. Now THAT is safe easy money. I'm not mocking any of these classes. Just trying to point out that is you don't have people supporting you, CM is a difficult class to get ahead in.




-ShadowBlade- MasterCM
-Darrkk- Shadow's ponyboy
ogreb42
Thu Dec 04, 2003 4:06 pm
#9

Combat medics are very much a support class, although not a support class as you have defined it! One on one, a combat medic (with only the requisite gun skills, im not talking about a cm/combat combo) will not win. It simply takes too long for our poisons to take somebody out under the current system. However, when playing a support role to a group, combat medics shine. Dish out an area effect poison, and even if the other group has a doctor who is able to cure everyone before the second tick, you've had a significant impact on the battle...the time the doctor spent curing the poisons was time he was not spending healing his group's damage, allowing your group to take them out with much greater ease.

Spellshock
Thu Dec 04, 2003 7:12 pm
#10

In my opinion if a combat medic was supposed to be a cool healing soldier with a gun, they should have given us our own rifle with specials and such forth. As you know they didn't. They gave us AOE poisons and diseases which whenever we use everyone else crys NERF! Right now we are a support class as we should be. We can also be very powerful in the right situations ( tossing in poison gas into a group of Faction NPCs before you attack them, mass heals with one stimpak, ect.) With the exception of the rarity of certain resources, I think we are pretty fine as we stand right now.
Sandman56
Thu Dec 04, 2003 7:20 pm
#11

Screw the +1.


What makes me mad is that we are supposed to be the dot masters but commandos are MUCH better at this. Their dot does damage instantly, which often is enough to kill someone ouright in PvP, their dot incaps and gets worse as you heal. Their dot doesnt have a delay to stop you from being incapped 3 times. Their dot does tons of damage AND wounds, so its a poison and a disease for us which their is MUCH stronger.


True commandos have a short range, but thats not much of a problem.




Glerk - Element Zero
Sandman56
Thu Dec 04, 2003 7:22 pm
#12

Oh, jlach...I am a developer as well(not professional) so I hate flamers as well. But they really need to sort their fixes better, I think commandos needed a nerf just as much as we did, yet they still aren't getting one.



Glerk - Element Zero
Gnuut
Thu Dec 04, 2003 7:31 pm
#13




jlach wrote:

When i think combat medic, i think more of a 'field medic' in RL war. Im sure most of us dont know what war is like, so lets take a movie (not the best example, but it works with what im trying to say). Lets take Blackhawk Down. Those field medics out there were not able to take on a group of 5 enimies by himself. He was out there to help the wounded, and had a gun JUST to protect himself when needed, and support his fellow brothers when needed.


I don't feel alot of the complaints you guys have is fair to the devs. we are NOT commandos or BHs. We are MEDICS who can shoot a gun. Thats the class, medic = support, gun = defense. We support our side while defending ourselfs. If you want to be able to solo a group of 10 Imps, drop Cm and pick up Commando. We are out there to help on the field. We are medics outside the med center, plain and simple.




Fact is this isn't real life this is a game.


In real life a CH would be taking the chance of his pet biting him.


In real life a Commando is silent and deadly not blasting crap left and right.


In real life a Bounty Hunter turns his quarry in to the cops, he's not an assassin.


In real life a Doctor can't buff your stats.


In real life a Droid Engineer would never get laid.


In real life a Chef would be one of the richest classes.


In real life a Smuggler would always be one step ahead of the law, not advertising their drugs for sale.


In real life a Bio Engineer would be feared because of the genetic experimentation they could abuse.


In real life Jedi do not exist.


So please tell me exactly how should real life apply to Combat Medics?




Grau'din
Elder Combat Medic
Magnumus Mysterium MYST
I am not a support class.
I am a chemical warfare expert.
I am a bio-warrior.
I am a zerg-stopper.
I am a Master CM. Run for your life....

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