Combat Medic Archive
Thread: Jedi calling for CM nerfs....again....
The numbers dont lie. Dont let your poor preception get the best of you dude.
Oss_Wilum wrote:
The Dev's have done more positive changes for the Jedi profession than any other profession out there.
lol
do you actually believe that or are you just being argumentative?
DekkoFett wrote:
Fixed...Jedi is not a difficult profession to grind, as so many have done it while AFK on Kashsyyk. So don't even try and give me that whole Jedi grinding BS. The only actual hard part of a Jedi grind is doing the village, which in itself is just simply time consuming and not difficult at all.
KeeferKman wrote:
Werewolfzz wrote:
Why do the Jedi keep popping in here and complaining, yet when a BH or CM says something in Jedi Profession thread they all start screaming "Troll"
key difference, I grinded out mcm...I AM A MASTER COMBAT MEDIC...WOOOOOT! 3 days of hard sweat
grind out a Force Sensitivity, then you can come post all you want and nobody can call you troll
you are so pwnd you can't even speak
Wanna compare that grind to this grind? check this out then, i grinded my jedi in 4 months, in the wild, all alone all the time, that was long before CU. By that time they were grinding cm or doc by healing afk tumblers in days again. There you go, done. Talking about being a BH? did you tried being a full ranged BH pre CU? Against 700k+ marks? No, Yes? Feeling me now?
Anyways non of those matter now. I think CM is perfect right now the way it is. Not over powered at all. Yes jedi healing is screwed and MasterHealer is broken mostly and worthless when you compare it to a MD or a MCM.
The jedi crying about mcm? Well don t get pissed about everything you read here i would say. When someone says JEDI and starts flaming we got our share too while we don t deserve it.
Well anyways the most important thing, Everybody should relize that we are playing the game all together, 1 Dev Team changes something and it turns out to be bad we all get screwd and have these arguments here.
I hope they fix DOT thing ASAP. they came out with a hot fix, didn t work, but at least we know they are working on it.
Ah btw, someone said in a message that They did more stuff for jedi then the other professions, yes the thing called jedi got screwd over and over and over and over again since publish 10 (village comes in). Actually the whole thing started with the holo grind but no need to go there.
Have a nice day and be safe.
Message Edited by jesuskane on 10-02-2005 02:17 PM
ih8modem wrote:
I've seen posts on the Jedi forums from 3 viewpoints
1 - Nerf CM to hell cos they keep beating Jedi.
2 - CM are perfectly balanced, when played right can give the most enjoyable battles there are.
3 - CM are a joke, and easily taken down in 2 minutes by the FOTM template.
My suggestion, ignore the calls for nerfs. I think enough nerfing has happened in this game already.
KeeferKman wrote:
Werewolfzz wrote:
Why do the Jedi keep popping in here and complaining, yet when a BH or CM says something in Jedi Profession thread they all start screaming "Troll"
key difference, I grinded out mcm...I AM A MASTER COMBAT MEDIC...WOOOOOT! 3 days of hard sweat
grind out a Jedi, then you can come post all you want and nobody can call you troll
you are so pwnd you can't even speak
who are you? do you play this game? i bet ur one of those dancers i see in theed who just pretends to be a jedi
go surf ebay some more and quit b!tching about the mechanics of the game kthnxbye
jesuskane wrote:
DekkoFett wrote:
Fixed...Jedi is not a difficult profession to grind, as so many have done it while AFK on Kashsyyk. So don't even try and give me that whole Jedi grinding BS. The only actual hard part of a Jedi grind is doing the village, which in itself is just simply time consuming and not difficult at all.
KeeferKman wrote:
Werewolfzz wrote:
Why do the Jedi keep popping in here and complaining, yet when a BH or CM says something in Jedi Profession thread they all start screaming "Troll"
key difference, I grinded out mcm...I AM A MASTER COMBAT MEDIC...WOOOOOT! 3 days of hard sweat
grind out a Force Sensitivity, then you can come post all you want and nobody can call you troll
you are so pwnd you can't even speak
Wanna compare that grind to this grind? check this out then, i grinded my jedi in 4 months, in the wild, all alone all the time, that was long before CU. By that time they were grinding cm or doc by healing afk tumblers in days again. There you go, done. Talking about being a BH? did you tried being a full ranged BH pre CU? Against 700k+ marks? No, Yes? Feeling me now?
Anyways non of those matter now. I think CM is perfect right now the way it is. Not over powered at all. Yes jedi healing is screwed and MasterHealer is broken mostly and worthless when you compare it to a MD or a MCM.
The jedi crying about mcm? Well don t get pissed about everything you read here i would say. When someone says JEDI and starts flaming we got our share too while we don t deserve it.
Well anyways the most important thing, Everybody should relize that we are playing the game all together, 1 Dev Team changes something and it turns out to be bad we all get screwd and have these arguments here.
I hope they fix DOT thing ASAP. they came out with a hot fix, didn t work, but at least we know they are working on it.
Ah btw, someone said in a message that They did more stuff for jedi then the other professions, yes the thing called jedi got screwd over and over and over and over again since publish 10 (village comes in). Actually the whole thing started with the holo grind but no need to go there.
Have a nice day and be safe.
Message Edited by jesuskane on 10-02-2005 02:17 PM
dont say jedi cry nerf again, you were nvr nerfed in the 1st place
CRY MORE NOOBS!!!
Thassk wrote:
Kaukiji wrote:
jonzi wrote:
CM would is not overpowered its just the only way to damage a jedi at all, pure ranged professiosn have no chance against jedi with any def or enhancer skills, its FOTM because its the only viable option, if it get nerfed then there is literally nothing to touch jedi.
what are you talking about? are you suggesting that a bounty hunter actually may have to HUNT(!!!) just take some time, follow them and watch them, if their aura goes off hit them with a kd, critical, torso, critical and they will be near dead if you have a good gun. all CM/BH does IMO is ruin the hunting aspect of BH by making a CM/MBH able to stand toe to toe with any jedi
(btw, before i start getting flamed, i dont think CM should be nerfed, but i also hate people who are too lazy to actually try and be viable with something other than FOTM...i used to be MCarb/MCM, but dropped it for BH, and im one of a very few on chilastra who isnt MCM/MBH)
MCM isnt as easy as you people make it out to be ... its tough .. its tough being that close to a jedi and duking it out ... you gotta have steady nerves ...
i had my other builds ... including pistols and rifles ... and let me tell ya .. they were both 100 times better for PVE and pretty much everything else in the game than my current master CM template ...
the only reason i went MCM is because of the high %'s that when you pull a mission these days its gonna be a master defender .. give me a non FOTM temp that has a chance against THAT FOTM temp and we'll talk ...
i see jedi crying over MCM everywhere these days .. but if they want to solve the MCM problem .... tell their buddies not to go master defender FOTM .. and you wont see ANY MCM's .. MCM is not the type of proffession a bounty hunter wants to be .. we are FORCED to be it ... you think a bounty hunter wants to be a combat medic? you thinnk any of us when buying the game dreaming of being BH pictured ourselves in silly padded suits .. throwing poison packs at people!? id rather go ranged all the way .. crap id rather go COMMANDO all the way ... but we cant .. too many jedi are FOTM master defenders ... and no other proffession can deal with em even remotely
Message Edited by Thassk on 09-04-2005 12:23 AM
Any Bounty Hunter can Kill any Jedi. It's really very simple. You are meant to hunt jedi and take them out when they are at their most vulnerable. Not charge in head first and expect to win. If an Bounty Hunter does this they should be dispatched very easily. The problem is that most bounty hunters are not bounty hunters but people that want to pvp. If you want to pvp then go overt if oyu want to hunt adn use cunnign tactics to take down your prey then become a bounty hunter.
No Bounty hunter shoudl be able to charge up to a fully templated jedi and expect to win but that is waht you all want. I say to hell with all of you with this mentality. It's is not in line with what a bounty hunter truley is.
Fuisseran wrote:
Thassk wrote:
Kaukiji wrote:
jonzi wrote:
CM would is not overpowered its just the only way to damage a jedi at all, pure ranged professiosn have no chance against jedi with any def or enhancer skills, its FOTM because its the only viable option, if it get nerfed then there is literally nothing to touch jedi.
what are you talking about? are you suggesting that a bounty hunter actually may have to HUNT(!!!) just take some time, follow them and watch them, if their aura goes off hit them with a kd, critical, torso, critical and they will be near dead if you have a good gun. all CM/BH does IMO is ruin the hunting aspect of BH by making a CM/MBH able to stand toe to toe with any jedi
(btw, before i start getting flamed, i dont think CM should be nerfed, but i also hate people who are too lazy to actually try and be viable with something other than FOTM...i used to be MCarb/MCM, but dropped it for BH, and im one of a very few on chilastra who isnt MCM/MBH)
MCM isnt as easy as you people make it out to be ... its tough .. its tough being that close to a jedi and duking it out ... you gotta have steady nerves ...
i had my other builds ... including pistols and rifles ... and let me tell ya .. they were both 100 times better for PVE and pretty much everything else in the game than my current master CM template ...
the only reason i went MCM is because of the high %'s that when you pull a mission these days its gonna be a master defender .. give me a non FOTM temp that has a chance against THAT FOTM temp and we'll talk ...
i see jedi crying over MCM everywhere these days .. but if they want to solve the MCM problem .... tell their buddies not to go master defender FOTM .. and you wont see ANY MCM's .. MCM is not the type of proffession a bounty hunter wants to be .. we are FORCED to be it ... you think a bounty hunter wants to be a combat medic? you thinnk any of us when buying the game dreaming of being BH pictured ourselves in silly padded suits .. throwing poison packs at people!? id rather go ranged all the way .. crap id rather go COMMANDO all the way ... but we cant .. too many jedi are FOTM master defenders ... and no other proffession can deal with em even remotely
Message Edited by Thassk on 09-04-2005 12:23 AM
Message Edited by Thassk on 10-06-2005 12:31 AM
Just like to say a couple of things, this is not really an issue with MCM as far as I can see but more of an issue with MBH/CM vs Jedi, from my experience from both sides as a Mrifles/CM and a jedi I can safely say that a CM/BH with amour break res armour and a good weaponand the correct use of foods and an 'indestructible droid'will win against a jedi every time if they know what they are doing. You get a lot of so called 'leet' jedi saying that they handle MCM/BH with ease, what you got to realise is that a lot of people dont like to admit when theyget beaten and spout on about how they can kill anyone they meet! They are talking bull and they know it.
This is not a whine at all as I admire the MBH/CM temp as one that is a pure jedi killer temp, its all in there.. high damage, combat speed debuff, movement debuff, mind debuff, state debuff, fire dot, poison dot, paralyse along with the BH own skills too.. bleeds, kd,critical, etc
The minute I encounter one of these temps now and the debufs start pouring in I have stopped even bothering to fight as I know it will result in a healling war which I can never win. Thats even after using a holo. Think you may find soon that the FOTM jedi templates MLS/MDef will soon be retemplating to add an escape option into the builds, ie FR, Statis or cloke as any jedi that does not have at least one of these is easy prey to any decent BH/CM.
I really dislike nerfs on any profession and would rather in fact see fixes and boosts. I think that we all need to understand that ever since the CU and before there have been some major balancing flaws between professions which seems to be really slow in being rectified. Its also natural for people to gravitate towards the strongest templates especially the BH profession whose task is to kill jedi so we cant blame the BH for picking an option that the devs have put there. I just hate all the animosity between profession espeicially the jedi BH ones as it spills over into all other professions where BH choose to take their abilities from.
From a selfish point of view as a jedi I would love to have some kinda counter to the CM debuffs (please dont say force speed please as its crap as it stands!) but I have to make do with what I have as this isnt the case. I guess the devs are really busy with the new expansion atm but I can feel a few balancing changes coming in the near future and I hope they are not nerfs, but rather boosts to certain proffs as it would make for a more diverse range of proffs. Seriously as a jedi the only temp that has hunted me in the past 4 months is the BH/CM variety and it gets a little stale. Maybe by boosting some other proffs will give the BH more choice and get rid of this boring heal wars thing!