Combat Medic Archive
Thread: Healing yourself needs to be balanced
Message Edited by mmaness on 08-09-2005 01:18 PM
A "Fan Boy" then, in any case you have become their tool by posting this Nerf garbage.
fletcherreed wrote:
Not a jedi, thank you very much.
Cesare wrote:
Lots of posts in the Jedi, FS and BHForums, looks like another Jedi whiner trying to ruin any class that threatens them.
fletcherreed wrote:
Its just too powerful right now for any profession... Its practically required for any type of PvP. The point of the CU was to make almost any template viable but if you don't have a good 25 sp invested in medic, you are screwed. The intention with CM and Doc were to be support professions. Especially with CM, they have debuffs to go along with the 1200 healing.
What I suggest is to beaf up player to player healing and nerf the player healing himself. Since BH and jedi cannot be supported by other players, jedi healing needs to takea hit too.Either increase mind costs or nerf the amount of healing. To have one or two professions ABSOLUTELY necessary in one's template toPvP is insane.
Message Edited by fletcherreed on 08-09-2005 01:10 AM
Machiaveli wrote:
TenshiHanaKinu wrote:
You mean like Pistoleer 000X for Stopping Shot?
Doctor X000 or CM X000 for Heals?
Jedi Healer X000?
So are Pistoleer, Doctor, CM, or Jedi Healer as professions overpowered? Nope. Just the method in which the ability to dabble has been set up is.
Stopping shot is a move used once with a long reload timer, let me ask you why everyone wasn't a CM/DOC before the patch came that nerfed jedi heals and brought up CM heals? Because healing was ballanced. I just dont understand SOE's logic they take away something from one profesion and give it to another.
People complained about Jedi's strong heals with low timersheals so they just give them to Docs/CMs so people can complain some more?
Non-Jedi were SEVERELY getting pushed out of the Galactic Civil War by Jedi because in most cases they had much poorer defenses and BECAUSE NON-JEDI HEALING WAS VERY, VERY LOW.
CM and Doc healing are the ONLY thing, and I mean the ONLY thing, keeping Jedi from exterminating non-Jedi forever.
It NEEDS to stay the same.
Cesare wrote:
A "Fan Boy" then, in any case you have become their tool by posting this Nerf garbage.
fletcherreed wrote:
Not a jedi, thank you very much.
Cesare wrote:
Lots of posts in the Jedi, FS and BHForums, looks like another Jedi whiner trying to ruin any class that threatens them.
fletcherreed wrote:
Its just too powerful right now for any profession... Its practically required for any type of PvP. The point of the CU was to make almost any template viable but if you don't have a good 25 sp invested in medic, you are screwed. The intention with CM and Doc were to be support professions. Especially with CM, they have debuffs to go along with the 1200 healing.
What I suggest is to beaf up player to player healing and nerf the player healing himself. Since BH and jedi cannot be supported by other players, jedi healing needs to takea hit too.Either increase mind costs or nerf the amount of healing. To have one or two professions ABSOLUTELY necessary in one's template toPvP is insane.
Message Edited by fletcherreed on 08-09-2005 01:10 AM
Hardly. I hate the number of jedi in this game as much as the next person. If you actually read the post, it says jedi healing needs to be balanced also. Not exactly a "tool" now, eh?
TenshiHanaKinu wrote:
The Jedi heal is still stronger than that of a Doctor. It is an ASSURED 1500 points. You also have a Force Infusion special. You can also use your healing abilities WHILE KD'ed.
Doctors have THREE Heals, which allows them to heal better than Jedi or CMs. The main heal of a Doctor is on the SAME TIMER as a Jedi's Force Heal -- but can't be used whileKD'ed.If you want a third heal, pick up some Medic.
But then again, 28 skill points to get a 1500 pt heal + Infusion... and then plenty of room left to snatch some lightsaber skills, or other force abilities...
it sounds nice to heal 1500 over six seconds butwith just with a simple combo i can cause 1800 pts of damage over 6 seconds and thats without applying armorbreak. jedi healing is easily overcome now. duels dont go down to whoever is the first to run out offorce, you can actually damage him more than he can keep up to get the incap.alsoeveryone can heal on their back, its called stims, not that you really have to, i never spend more than 2 secs on the ground unless in a lag area.
4000 healer does leaveskill points to develop an effective template, thankfully, butso does 4440 medic, or 4000cm, 4004 doc, 4000 doc or whatever combo you want to go with. the only difference between these templates is that 4000 healer is the bare minimum, without it that jedi is nothingor he betterbe at leastmaster defender.
theres a reason why every jedi who knows his stuff carries stims, its because he cannot afford not to. so if you think jedi healing is better than any other form of healing i suggest you pick up a jedi and do somereal play testing. dont go by what sounds good on text, go out and play it then come back and tell us how great jedi dabbler healing is.
I tried using a Stim while KD'ed. Didn't work. 
4440 medic < Healer 4000. Your mind will be gone.
The difference between your other listings is that a Jedi has a WIDER Skill point spending range. Doctor 4xxx, 4xx4, and CM 4xxx are more expensive skill-point wise.
Battle armor certification, 60/75 melee/range defense, and I don't know a single person that has MCM as a stand alone profession, if not with master doctor (which is ANOTHER 60/75 melee/range def).
Vicci A'Tivo - Elder "in your face" Bounty HunterIf I run out of MIND, its going to take alot longer than 3 seconds (which is the most you need for action) to regen enough for another heal. That includes while I'm on foods, buffs, and spice combined."
My Mon Cal with foods/spices barely loses mind (+1200 base mind, add another +250 and +20% spice, freaky huh?), I can spam heals and attacks because the race's action/mind regen are alot higher than most other races other than Bothan- losing mind isn't an issue for me, I used to have MDoc/MCM and it was silly being able to heal and use debuffs/buffs and even use force channel while standing and regen as fast as a Zabrak would regen sitting down.
I don't care what anyone says, there's ALOT of inbalance going on between many things, and heals is still one of them.