Combat Medic Archive

Thread: Spider Venom will either be really good for you guys or end up being really bad.

Raelu
Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:53 pm
#66






TsunamiKata wrote:





InsaneWookiePossie wrote:

You will NOT tick for 1k on a disease UNLESS you have over 100 BF.


Dont believe me? Test it out. Disease CREATES BF, so the first tick may not be that bad, the second tick will lay you out.




That is correct, having Battle Fatique will subsquencely increase the tick on the disease. However, according to the poster's message above, the pet also received a higher than abnormal tick on disease, I have not tested disease on Pets and therefore can not comment on the Pet and its Battle Fatique.


With that said, do take into consideration that disease will only tick until +1 so for instance, if you have 1100 mind and you get hit with a powerful disease for 1099, and it drop your mind pool to 1, then you take moun, brandy, and crepe to boost your mind, the disease will not tick again, ever.


So it is quite possible for people to run around with a lot of mind wound and yet not incap even with both poison and disease. Try it out, you'll see what I'm referring to.







They very well could have had high BF as it was about mid battle this happened and may have even died and been rez'd a few times. And they were not identical ticks of 1100, but that was their mind stat max, I was too general, but they were both over 1k and neither had any mind left after the tick (I do not know how much mind damage they had before the tick, but their minds were almost to full).


The battle did not have a resolution and will probably occur under simlar circumstances again today, if I see this happen again I will getsome screens. I have already seen similar posts on the GCW board regarding 1k disease from other players so hopefully I am not imagining things.





Raelu T'Zhar
BMI/LPR
Sleksheea
Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:38 pm
#67

The reason these drops have been added is to make the Combat Medic poisons signifigant, or at least up to par with the other combat classes in PvE. As everyone knows, CM poisons are pretty pathetic in PvE. As far as PvP, the DEV team has already commented on the power of CM poisons and diseases as "at about the right spot". So I wish all you nerf criers would UFTS about the 75% pvp reduction crap for poisons you think of as some kind of valid arguement. The lowest DPS combat class in the game isn't going to get a damage nerf. It's unfounded. Learn to play the game with stragety, instead of trying to force the DEV's to change to game to fit your own unstrategic play style.



I TOLD them they should have made our spherical space station out of the same magnetically shielded walls as the garbage compactor! -Sleksheea
Kriel
Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:47 pm
#68

i looted 304 power venom today
Gnuut
Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:30 pm
#69

Check it out....Imps of Kauri you feeling yer buttcheeks pucker yet?


http://members.cox.net/arudb/swg/newcmmeds.jpg





Grau'din
Elder Combat Medic
Magnumus Mysterium MYST
I am not a support class.
I am a chemical warfare expert.
I am a bio-warrior.
I am a zerg-stopper.
I am a Master CM. Run for your life....

Raelu
Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:02 am
#70






TsunamiKata wrote:





Raelu wrote:

At a rather large raid last not I watched in horror as a group of people got hit with a 1100 mind disease from a combat medic, you guys don't need to be hit with a nerf bat, but a metal bat with somespikes on it would be about fair.


It was actually about 1230 a tick, as I saw it tick onsomeones pet thatgot hit as well as the people, but it can't do more damage than a players mind can be. And yes that is disease, not poison. I really hope it was someone that either got some really rare loot or was expoiting because if this becomes the norm, I can see the end of PvP for this game.



1100 area disease, I have yet to see that. Are you certain it's not poison? Perhaps you should take a screen shot next time.












Yes I am certain it was disease, and it wasn't just happening on our side, but on the otherside of the battle as well, 1k+ disease was landing on them too when I was talking to someone after the fight. And I will be sure to get a screen of it next time, I was just in shock that I didn'tthink at that time to get one heh.


I personally didn't get hit with one of those bad boys and I could not tell if it was AoE or single due to people already being damaged, and not all players have their mind stats maxed out. I did see it tick on 2 people for 1100 though, and then I watched the pet as it ticked while I wasmeditating. I believeticks on players are for the same as pets/npc's, if I am incorrect please let me know. I did however get hit with a 670ish diseasetwo times while fighting, and even that is a bit crazy.





Raelu T'Zhar
BMI/LPR
Sleksheea
Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:48 pm
#71






Gnuut wrote:

Check it out....Imps of Kauri you feeling yer buttcheeks pucker yet?


http://members.cox.net/arudb/swg/newcmmeds.jpg








Very powerfull indeed... but the range and area affect really suck bad. You really blew it using crappy resources or something? At least you could have used like a +200 charge rancor bile item to increase the longentivity of them. Oh, for the record, I'm about to craft a stack of mind area diseases using 10 identical +501 venoms anduber dispersial mechs looted from the rebel theme park (about 3 times better stats than the best I can make now). Oh, and it's for my Imperial combat medic character who has 12 expermentation points.... rebels of Lowca... do YOU feel your buttcheeks puckering yet?



I TOLD them they should have made our spherical space station out of the same magnetically shielded walls as the garbage compactor! -Sleksheea
avatar12m
Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:16 am
#72

isn't the range allways double what it lists in the box so his 41 is 82 range ?
Achilles467
Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:35 am
#73






Loonytic wrote:
good to see they have finally decided to address the fact that our DPS is the lowest in the game...






1000k tick every 6 seconds * 20 people = highest DPS in entire game.



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D3st0r
Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:07 pm
#74

Yeah I've been lucky enough to get a bunch of spider venom from the cave, but why would you take 400 power venom and then give it normal uses?Every single poison/disease im making with venom is being coupled with super high charge Bile, to make it last that much longer, since you know this stuff is going to be nerfed. Espescially with 400 power venom, **edit** I couldnt imagine that running out after 40 or so uses *shiver*


Here's one I made:


http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=45943




/-------=[ Tal-ev Osimao ~ Former 4444 Dark Jedi Guardian ]=--------------------------\
| I need a freak, to hold me tight. I need a freak, everyday and everynight.- Too $hort |
\------------------------------=[
Destor ~ Pre-Pub9 Jedi Main ~ Current Padawan ]=------/
\----------=[ ONYXSig01 ~ TalevNew!! ~ ONYXSigMal ~ Talev01 ~ Talev02 ]=--------/
\-=[ "What if your enemy is three inches in front of you. What do you do then." ]=-/
\-----=[ "Curl into a ball.. or do you put your FIST through him?" - Bai Mei ]=-----/
Gnuut
Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:19 pm
#75




D3st0r wrote:

Yeah I've been lucky enough to get a bunch of spider venom from the cave, but why would you take 400 power venom and then give it normal uses?




Beacause I didn't intend to use it in PVE, I planned to use it in PVP. 80m range coupled with high damage is devastating.





Grau'din
Elder Combat Medic
Magnumus Mysterium MYST
I am not a support class.
I am a chemical warfare expert.
I am a bio-warrior.
I am a zerg-stopper.
I am a Master CM. Run for your life....

D3st0r
Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:53 pm
#76

Heh, guess I dont know much about the Combat Medic "tactics" but last time I checked, you didnt have to be at 80m to kill someone and survive. I'd trade the extra 100 uses of that amazingly rare venom disease/poisonfor having half the range, anyday.




/-------=[ Tal-ev Osimao ~ Former 4444 Dark Jedi Guardian ]=--------------------------\
| I need a freak, to hold me tight. I need a freak, everyday and everynight.- Too $hort |
\------------------------------=[
Destor ~ Pre-Pub9 Jedi Main ~ Current Padawan ]=------/
\----------=[ ONYXSig01 ~ TalevNew!! ~ ONYXSigMal ~ Talev01 ~ Talev02 ]=--------/
\-=[ "What if your enemy is three inches in front of you. What do you do then." ]=-/
\-----=[ "Curl into a ball.. or do you put your FIST through him?" - Bai Mei ]=-----/
Gnuut
Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:21 pm
#77

When your lagged out from being outnumbered4 to 1 it helps....



Grau'din
Elder Combat Medic
Magnumus Mysterium MYST
I am not a support class.
I am a chemical warfare expert.
I am a bio-warrior.
I am a zerg-stopper.
I am a Master CM. Run for your life....

Anti-Thug
Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:15 am
#78






Achilles467 wrote:





Loonytic wrote:
good to see they have finally decided to address the fact that our DPS is the lowest in the game...






1000k tick every 6 seconds * 20 people = highest DPS in entire game.






too bad it's all been nerfed so the uber damage will be gone soon enough...damn!



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