Combat Medic Archive
Thread: An offer to JFANG or Vortexala
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TsunamiKata
Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:09 am
#27
Morath360 wrote:
Like I said, "I suppose you could come up with a scenario to support your claims". Realistically, no one worth their salt is going to pvp in with 95% composite (if they can find it) with no stun protection and no shield. Your average to very good player will have that covered.
Right now depend on which time of the day you PvP, more people are using DXR-6 Acid rifle than T-21 because of its accuracy and the lack of acid protection on the PSG shield. So maybe the smarter players are wearing 95% composite now.
Morath360
Wed Jul 14, 2004 9:38 am
#28
Which leads to an interesting question. Since the T21 is ap3 does it go right through shields? I tend to think it does. I had my friend shoot me with my 37% shield on and the shield remained undamaged. The shield seemed to make little difference. It seemed the same with my Jawa which is ap1. In any event, the t21 does an extra 50% damage vs ar1 armor. At least that is my understanding. Is there a way to tweak it so that a 300 Jawa ap1 can do more damage? Probably, however it would be very rare and to argue otherwise is to do so just for the sake of arguing.
TsunamiKata
Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:01 am
#30
Pahdbacca wrote:
My PvP is longer than your PvP
Only inyour dreams wookie!! I'll light you on fire and call you screaming alpha.
Morath360
Wed Jul 14, 2004 11:12 am
#31
TsunamiKata wrote:
Morath360 wrote:
Which leads to an interesting question. Since the T21 is ap3 does it go right through shields? I tend to think it does. I had my friend shoot me with my 37% shield on and the shield remained undamaged. The shield seemed to make little difference. It seemed the same with my Jawa which is ap1. In any event, the t21 does an extra 50% damage vs ar1 armor. At least that is my understanding. Is there a way to tweak it so that a 300 Jawa ap1 can do more damage? Probably, however it would be very rare and to argue otherwise is to do so just for the sake of arguing.
The T-21 does not go through the shield. If he shot you and your shield remain undamaged, that's because you didn't unequip and re-equip it.
Well I always only equip it in pvp and then when done I unequip it. What is the deal with that? I have to unequip and equip everytime in between battles to be safe? Grrrr. stupid nuances... I will re-test. Thank you.
BTW, Im one big Wookiee...lol
Message Edited by Morath360 on 07-14-2004 11:14 AM
jfang
Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:34 pm
#33
I have no interest in getting access to somebody else's account. Too much risk and potential for abuse. I also thought there was no real reason to respond, and my sentiments reflect Texxie's in regards to this offer. I appreciate the offer, but I will have to decline. Thanks anyway though.
Pappi
Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:52 am
#34
vortexala wrote:
Appreciate the offer Morath, but don't think it would be appropriate.
And what exactly is it you'd like tested? We could always simply create a character on your server and tag-along, which would be easier in the long run.
you know hon, you can borrow *me* to test any day
David25
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:01 am
#35
Morath360 wrote:
*Sigh. Lots if ignorant people here. Notice I said ignorant and not stupid. We got a droid engineer telling us all about PVP and the combat medic. We have someone that actually thinks a 300 jawa ap1 rifle can out damage a 700 damage ap3 T21 and the funniest thing is that we have Melee BH thinking he can actually kill a decent Jedi...BTW, if you know what it is like to be on the receiving end then you know how quickly the whole pvp experience falls apart. It is just that you are prejudiced to the CM. Then again everyone else just could be wrong. Somehow I dont think so.
I guess you could set up scenarios that would support your claims, but any decent pvper is going to have stun protection and sheilds and good composite.
Oh almost forgot. Screaming like achild throwing a temper tantrum doesn't really help your cause..
Good stuff guys.
Message Edited by Morath360 on 07-13-2004 07:56 AM
it's past experience bub. 
my t21 is just for killing hte big mobs....dxrs and jawas rule pvp. I laugh at a guy who tries to damage my 85% armor with anything but stun 
my t21 is just for killing hte big mobs....dxrs and jawas rule pvp. I laugh at a guy who tries to damage my 85% armor with anything but stun
Morath360
Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:06 am
#36
Yes very past experience... Besides let me clarify something. I was simply respondiing to a 300 jawa vs a 700 T21. If you run the numbers at the speed cap remembering ap3 vs ap1 with normal stun armor and a normal shield the T21 will outdamage the Jawa.
Brainplay
Fri Jul 16, 2004 6:29 am
#37
David25 wrote:
it's past experience bub.
Except for stun and kinetic can you think of a weapon type that did any real damage in PvP until the DX came along? The AP bonus just recently got fixed for pvp. With the lack of accuracy in the T21 you were still better off with a Jawa even against a stun layered helmet with a accuracy modded laser rifle and min damage power up.
DX and snow cake let me eat fencers for breakfast 
Morath360
Fri Jul 16, 2004 7:31 am
#38
Well, my response is updated with current stats. Besides, we are still comparing 2 rifles where one is more than 2 times as powerful. Really, this is a sidepoint that Im tired of talking about..
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