Combat Medic Archive

I'm not just quoting others. It does work.

When you cure poisons. By default the first poison to get cured is the health poison, then action, the mind. Now it's entirely possible a cure could be effective enough, and a poison worthless enough that the whole thing can be cured in 1 application. That seems reasonable to me, but I haven't seen that cold hard truth on that. What I do know, is despite a doctor healing himself I am able to keep at least every doc I run into mind poisoned. Believe me it does work out this way.

Whether or not you make sufficently powerfull cures to nullify it all would be a question that would require hard numbers to verify and further testing. Cure effects vs Poison/disease Effect.

But I do know.... that when curing poison/disease, the order of curing goes health,action,mind. And I also know most players only seem to be able tocure off the health or action poison, but can't get to the mind poison. Same idea appleis to disease as well. But you really have to stretch your combat time out to see this work out for you.

A combat medic is as fast as a doctor when it comes to stims, poisons, state heals, cures. The delay is 2 seconds.

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Crossover wrote:
Sorry about that last post, didnt see all the replies


But yeah, i have nice equipement... jawa ion is 478 with a powerup, its krayt..... the CM had 3k+ mind, and kept healing his intimidate and dots i dropped on him, he didnt disease me, all he did was spam poisin, but for some reason when he spammed the poisin, when i cured, he just landed another poisin onto me and the last poisin ticked because i couldnt heal it in time, and it was clear he was fooded up and psged up and stun armored up

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switch to a good disruptor then and SS2 for the win since acid's not usually in spec resists and base is normally under 80% esp on stun armor.

oh and doesn't this work?

/curep mind;

/cured mind;

/curep;

/cured;

/headshot3;

/pause 2;

/macro antiCM;

/pause 18;

/dump;

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jfang wrote:

KnightHawk420, I keep hearing (from you and other people) of this idea "if you have a health poison, then mind poison is uncurable". From what I can tell, it feels like everybody is quoting everybody else about this "fact" of having an uncurable mind poison.. However, in my experiments this was not the case. There is no way for one poison to prevent another from being cured (as mentioned in my original reply).

Granted I only ran two experiments abouttwo months ago, but I found that a doctor using effectiveness experimented poison cures could cure all the poisons afflicting a person with one application. Can you (or somebody else) confirm that within the past month or two that:

A master doctor using well made poison cure pack (read: not using grind quality resources, and experimenting effectiveness) applying a curePoison to a person with a health,action,and mind poison will only cure the health poison, or the health and mind one? (In other words, a combat medic in theory can prevent a mind poison from being cured by stacking a health and/or action poison.)

Due to the chaos of battle, it is easy to get mis-impressions (eg. a combat medic reapplies a mind poison without you noticing, or you curing a disease instead of a poison), so it would be better if the experiment was run outside of live combat. It is entirely possible I am mistaken, and would appreciate it is somebody could confirm this for me. Thanks

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It's called a Creeper. Slip in a mind poison then spam health poisons. Did this yesterday to 2 Docs on Bria and one Doc on Kauri so imho it works fine.

I'm a master doctor. I use 481 power cure poison C medpacks (these are very highend cures). If area poisonedon two stats with venom enhanced poison (1000 damage per tick for each stat dot), I have to use two applications to clear the poison (I can clear one of these dots with one application). It is impossible for a master doctor to stay ahead of a CM spamming on even two stats under these circumstances. Any doctor who claims to be able to clear all three stats with a single cure application if facing a CM with weak poison.

A CM using this tactic will burn thru his poisons in no time but will be utterly unbeatable in any group pvp encounter. Doctors are not able to even cure themselves much less anyone else.

The only bright side to this is that I have only met two CMs in pvp willing to utilize enhanced poison on a stat besides mind so I don't run into this very often.

Pinner Augustin

Message Edited by PinnerAugustin on 05-11-2004 08:03 AM

Message Edited by PinnerAugustin on 05-11-2004 08:10 AM

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jfang wrote: Off the cuff, some possible solutions would be the further strengthening of poison and disease cures (which I am against because then a cure A could cure a poison C), or maybe the introduction of a food or drink which improves a doctor's ability to cure.

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I don't agree with that. As it is poison and disease cures require the most common resources. A crappy made poison cure is more than enough to wipe away an above average poison. The poisons and cures need to be made more proportionate in power. Like it was stated above, a Spider Venom made poison should require a Janta blood made cure.

Ah,

well it seems that I was mistaken placing a negative conotation on you comments. Sarcasm can easily go either way.

Pinner Augustin

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Rchuno wrote:

I use 515 power cures. Fairly high end but have yet to havea poison live through one. Anyway using massivley powerfull cures helps alot. And I will try a janta in a cure and see what happens later this week.

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Have you ever been poisoned on more than one stat pool?

I think that you will find that your cures will not fully remove a dot from poison on two stats much less all three primaries.

Pinner Augustin