Combat Medic Archive

Thread: Petition to have StimB's relocated on the medic tree

Brainplay
Tue Apr 27, 2004 5:59 am
#14

Actually the crappy stimB's that I can make on the spot for my groupmates can get 600+ heals on a regular basis. With a BE shirt they land that and much higher all the time.


As to the person saying that stimB's are a big part of doctors income...well tough crap buddy. I still have to buy MY ranged stim components from a DOCTOR if I want to make the best heals I can. Yeah you have to be there in person but try and tell me you dont make tons of cash from that only. Dont ever friggen tell me about farming your healing materials. I have to farm almost exactly what you do and much much more just to do my poisons and diseases! Doctors have the ability to make the same amount of credits in one buff as I do on one mission. Even crappy buffs wont be turned down!


Yeah I'm a full time healer to the person who didn't think so. When in tough groups its my job and I do it. That wasn't the issue, it was the fact that people can heal themselves just as easily. They cant heal as much when I'm using ranged C's or D's but they can still heal ALOT. I bet you'd be real happy if i became a master CM/doc so I can follow behind 3 steps behind and 2 to your right and heal and buff you 24/7.


Fine I exaggerated on the atst/swordsman thing. The fact was that he soloed it and used stimB's and doc buffs to do it. I've seen plenty of other situations where stimB's put a serious advantage to someone who used them. Sorry I think that that kind of healing ability for a novice istoo excessive. The rest of what you said I made no sense of.


Ice-Fire:


[The drag has its uses it may not be geared toward cm's but it should still be respected because doctors ALSO need mastic medic to become docs. In the docs case drag is used to pull a dead guy to a safe are and rez them, so that they dont killed again as soon as they stand up.] turns out everyone gets this at character creation, its called /drag Its even shorter to type.


[your mind healing mind loss makes no sense at all considiering that humans can have the highest focus(1100) and willpower(1100) and very high mind(1100) shouldnt a human be taking less mind dmg compaired to the zabrak? zabrak having a focus and willpower base of 800 and a mind base of 1000 or 1100.] Huh? Dunno what you're talking about but I was talking about the mind DRAIN when its used. The mind wounds just compound the problem. Maybe you mean humans can have a higher focus than zabrak. Fine point taken. The human I saw use it probably didn't have their focus all the way up. Then again, besides him I've only seen one other CM use this ability.



[another example i found weak was "We can heal an entire group! Wait, they can heal themselves fully"

That area heal is a must have in hard battles such as the corvette. places where you need to heal tons of people fast.]

Yeah I use that too on the corvette and geo cave. You still didn't get my point. Everyone with novice medic can still heal themselves. Yeah its more efficient for me to do it but they still have that power. Forget the corvette or geo caves, I'm talking everyday stuff, pvp, and general adventuring too. Try and factor that in will ya?


IlyaMasool - Good points but I still have to get mind buffed to use an innate ability on a regular basis. Unbuffed with brandy and canape the drain and wounds still hurt alot. Thanks, you're about the only person who's posted anything worthwhile so far.



[Personally...i make a pile of cash off of selling my stim Bs. they have power of 419 and the whole damn server loves them. If you compare stim B at novice medic to a advanced stim E at master doctor the stats and numbers add up and are correct.] Thats great, real great. Is that the real reason you're posting? Afraid you wont be pulling in as much cash as before? Try and think balance here not your pocketbook. Thats why I'm asking for this. On top of the missions (which is where my main income comes from) you still have the ability to buff and make lots of cash.


Ok people you still haven't gotten my point. This isn't something posted just to hurt doctors. This is about our support role as dedicated healers. So far the only people who have posted against this are doctors who are worried that this will affect their bank accounts. So answer me why stimB's should be kept at the novice medic level. Whats the point of stimA's at that same level?


Try and forget than I'm a CM and think if I was just some BH or Tailor for that matter. Now take a long hard look at this petition and try and give me a legitamate reason why stimB's shouldn't be put higher on the pharmacology tree.











Keorythe

h Combat Medic h


/Forcing Counterstrike PvPers to PvE since 2003 \






A Combat Medic Alpha tester who never got the chance to alpha test

Whitewind
Tue Apr 27, 2004 2:24 pm
#15

"[The drag has its uses it may not be geared toward cm's but it should still be respected because doctors ALSO need mastic medic to become docs. In the docs case drag is used to pull a dead guy to a safe are and rez them, so that they dont killed again as soon as they stand up.] turns out everyone gets this at character creation, its called /drag Its even shorter to type."


uh if thats the case then itsa bug why have a cert for the ability if you have it at the start? hmmmm


"[your mind healing mind loss makes no sense at all considiering that humans can have the highest focus(1100) and willpower(1100) and very high mind(1100) shouldnt a human be taking less mind dmg compaired to the zabrak? zabrak having a focus and willpower base of 800 and a mind base of 1000 or 1100.] Huh? Dunno what you're talking about but I was talking about the mind DRAIN when its used. The mind wounds just compound the problem. Maybe you mean humans can have a higher focus than zabrak. Fine point taken. The human I saw use it probably didn't have their focus all the way up. Then again, besides him I've only seen one other CM use this ability"


clearly you have no idea what the difference between the 3 mind pools are. mind is your in a sense HIT points or life. focus is mod factor that determines how much DRAIN YOU WILL HAVE WHEN YOU DO A SET MOVE . willpower being your mind regen rate. for example lets say head shot 3 had a base mind cost of 50 that base is then factored into the rifles HAM costs. To give you a base HAM cost of 100 (without the focus mod factored in). lets say you had a focus of 500 then the mod would be 100*.5=50 for the final HAM drain (the number that pops out of your head). lets say you had 1500 focus then it would be something like 100*.2=20 giving you a much lower HAM cost. the same can be applyed to your mind heal it has a set mind drain base and that base can be knocked down by your focus mod. just as if your focus mod lowers the mind cost when you heal.


And lastly THE ONLY REASON to be a HUMAN is to PUMP YOUR MIND as HIGH as it CAN GO. (unless you like the looks) ANY SMART doc and most cms should have there mind poools pumped up as high as they can go because doc buffs can take care of your other 6 pools and almost always a doc or a cm gets incapped in the mind pool WHY? because they can heal the other pools very well.




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Whitewind
Tue Apr 27, 2004 2:28 pm
#16

"another example i found weak was "We can heal an entire group! Wait, they can heal themselves fully"
That area heal is a must have in hard battles such as the corvette. places where you need to heal tons of people fast.]

Yeah I use that too on the corvette and geo cave. You still didn't get my point. Everyone with novice medic can still heal themselves. Yeah its more efficient for me to do it but they still have that power. Forget the corvette or geo caves, I'm talking everyday stuff, pvp, and general adventuring too. Try and factor that in will ya?"


how about you factor in group heals you said nothing of the sort in your first posts? The only reason i attacked you on that is because you failed to think about a situtuation that group heals would be usefull therefore making everyone THINK group heals are useless. YOU were being extremly one sided and i just defended it



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Ice-Fire
Xel'Dar-IceFire Pharmaceuticals · Healing for the Masses
XCS
Mos Themis, Tatooine · Shadowfire

Brainplay
Wed Apr 28, 2004 2:16 pm
#17

I know what focus and willpower do and I thought I acknowledged it but I guess I was too vague. If I had known that about humans I'd probably have made one in the first place. I'll stick with zabrak...I like being a horny dude. So having said that do you mind not trolling and post something having to do with the topic?





Keorythe

h Combat Medic h


/Forcing Counterstrike PvPers to PvE since 2003 \






A Combat Medic Alpha tester who never got the chance to alpha test

Brainplay
Thu May 20, 2004 4:58 am
#18

/bump


Yay I'm wanted for corvette missions for something other than poisoning! Now if I could just get paid for my area stims...


After reading this I never knew how many doctors trolled our boards. Got even more popular when I posted a link in the TK boards.





Keorythe

h Combat Medic h


/Forcing Counterstrike PvPers to PvE since 2003 \






A Combat Medic Alpha tester who never got the chance to alpha test

MasterPilot11
Thu May 20, 2004 2:54 pm
#19

/sigh


i hate board arguments like this, but if its gonna go on, keep it to a debate, not pretending the other guy is a retard...


Whitewind, come on, he knows what the three mind stats do....





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