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Thread: Should everyone who PVPs be a combat medic?

Jestanicus
Mon May 17, 2004 5:09 am
#14






Kaynab wrote:
Sounds like you guys need doctors.

Rifleman/CM verse Fencer/Doctor is a good fight. Same with Rifleman/Doctor.

Right now PVP is ruled by Rifleman, CM, Doctor and Fencer. No reason for any other profession.





Do u think this the same now? with your new crated purchases?



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haho
Mon May 17, 2004 5:47 am
#15


whining isnt very starwarsy as well. i think the only whiner was c3po and he didnt PvP.


Lol nice one... Han Solo whined alot, as did leia, luke, hell there was loads of whining... heck your even doing it to me


melees arent starwarsy.


TKA is a cannon source as being star warsy.


hunting rancors isnt starwarsy.


How did they catch the rancor at jabbas palace? Im sure the creature tamer had some lairs aggro on him before he got one he could tame


non ST imps arent starwarsy.


Watch the films again more closely.





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Wonder if space-ships can fire poison or have crazy ass DOTs? If they can Im gonna burn SOE down... lol

haho
Mon May 17, 2004 5:53 am
#16

Mild-Breeze-Trooper fair enough I see by your tag you agree with certain things. It just seems the CM forum is the most heavily defended by alot of people who think everything is fine with the CM profession.


My point was if it is left like it is, then everyone who PVPs should be CM/Rifleman. I also find it hard to believe that the least Star Warsy of the combat professions is the uber template.It should be Jedi, then BH then Pistoleer (Han and Luke kick some serious ass with pistols).


As it stands Pistoleer is probably the worst PVP profession there is, poor souls.




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Wonder if space-ships can fire poison or have crazy ass DOTs? If they can Im gonna burn SOE down... lol

Mild-Breeze-Trooper
Mon May 17, 2004 5:58 am
#17






hase2 wrote:

whining isnt very starwarsy as well. i think the only whiner was c3po and he didnt PvP.




But he must have been overt in Cloud City, how could the ST's target him otherwise?




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Brainplay
Mon May 17, 2004 7:03 am
#18






haho wrote:


melees arent starwarsy. Nope they sure aren't. In the books and movies a single blaster bolt killed you. Anyone doing melee didn't get a ranged defense or could dodge something moving faster than sound.


TKA is a cannon source as being star warsy. - Actually its non-canon and already been posted on the tk boards as such. It never appeared in anything by George Lucas which is the only thing considered "canon". TK's are what happens when a writer takes a tae kwon do class and thinks he could have fought and beaten anybody from the medieval age.


non ST imps arent starwarsy.


Watch the films again more closely.- Did that and realize one thing. If the ST's were as elite in the movies as they were in the books then we wouldn't have gotten past episode 4. I think my 2 year old cousin can hit someone from 10 feet away, let alone with volley fire.







Lets face it, there was alot of stuff in the movies and books that dont add up in the game. In the non-canon aftermath books Combat Medics existed and there are references to them. Page hada combat medicin his commando unit on endor as well. Nobody got poisoned though, I suspect that its not as flashy as an E-11. ST armor was blast AND kinetic resistant. Luke never sat in line in Coronet to get "buffed" before a hunting on degobah. The E-11 was the most sought after weapon by rebels since it was the best thing out there at the time. There was brief nudity in RotJ. The Jawa Ion rifle was a piece o crap. Jedi never had to grind through 20 professions to unlock their slot..sheesh. Need I go on?


But as to your question about the pvp thing. Well here's how it goes. If you're not a CM/rifle, then you're a TK/doc, or a TK/Fencer/pistoleer, or a pike/fencer/rifle, or a BH/pistoleer.Taking out someone as a Master rifleman isn't all that hard even without poisons. The disease/poison thing is a fluke and is being addressed. A doc negates a CM even if he's using venom as well as cure any state from the ranged and melee professions. I can rant about TKM all day long but I wont even bother even though THEY are the ones who own PvP if there is noCM around. A defense vs. mind poison is coming (see sig) so **edit** and go grief somewhere else.


Make the mind pool un-incappable and let us poison substats instead. Maybe then we can actually be called a "support" profession and mean it.





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haho
Mon May 17, 2004 12:19 pm
#19

Can you name a single Chef from the Star Wars movies? Or a Tailor? Doesn't mean they weren't there.


True, but the fact you can see people eating and drinking in the cantinas means there must have been chefs in the star wars universe, oh and the fact all the characters are clothed and not naked must prove they had tailors.


My point is,combat medic isnot very star warsy (no reference to it in any of the films, which is the most cannon of sources), yet its the most powerful PVP combat class.....





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Wonder if space-ships can fire poison or have crazy ass DOTs? If they can Im gonna burn SOE down... lol

Kaynab
Mon May 17, 2004 3:13 pm
#20



Jestanicus wrote:


Kaynab wrote:
Sounds like you guys need doctors.

Rifleman/CM verse Fencer/Doctor is a good fight. Same with Rifleman/Doctor.

Right now PVP is ruled by Rifleman, CM, Doctor and Fencer. No reason for any other profession.


Do u think this the same now? with your new crated purchases?




Last night I fought two people while I was unbuffed and unarmored. Both were riflemen.

The first fight ended up with them both white barred, but I had screwed up and put 5 poisons on them instead of 4 and 1 disease.
The 2nd was a solo event against one of the riflmen, he 3 incapped and I died.
The 3rd was a solo event against the other rifleman, he 3 incapped and I died.

Both of them were in full armor with full buffs. The 2nd guy had 3k worth of mind, which the stacked poison dropped to 1 very quickly.

Havla screws everything up, otherwise what I said above was true.



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Scult
Tue May 18, 2004 2:47 pm
#21






darkdrifter- wrote:





haho wrote:


Also if they do give CMs a 75% reduction you will still be doing 150-200 damage in PVP, which is still pretty decent and in line with other combat professions....






Do you really think a 150-200 points of damage tickevery 10 seconds is going to do anything to a buffed person with over 3000 HAM that can heal them self on top of that?That wouldn't even be worth the 3-4 seconds it takes a CM to through it.Giving CM a 75% reduction would only destroy the profession. Then they would have to take it out of the game cause it would suck. If I where you I wouldn't hold my breath for a 75% reduction to CM or you might pass out!







Do you really think a 150-200 points of damage tickevery 10 seconds is going to do anything to a buffed person with over 3000 HAM that can heal them self on top of that?


Yes it will do something. Last time I checked CM's go for the mind which isnt exactly healable and the only way your mind is gonna get around 3K is to take brandy and get dancer/musician buffs.


Giving CM a 75% reduction would only destroy the profession.


Like every other proffession without a stun weapon?


If I where you I wouldn't hold my breath for a 75% reduction to CM or you might pass out!


Trust me a long awaited nerf is coming, a dot that is thrown from 95m and has a 99.9% chance to hit, that bypasses armor, that can be spammed and has no immunity time,has no regard to the75% damage reduction,which comes fromaSUPPORTclass doesnt seem overpowered to me.



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saladin123
Tue May 18, 2004 6:28 pm
#22






Scult wrote:





darkdrifter- wrote:





haho wrote:


Also if they do give CMs a 75% reduction you will still be doing 150-200 damage in PVP, which is still pretty decent and in line with other combat professions....






Do you really think a 150-200 points of damage tickevery 10 seconds is going to do anything to a buffed person with over 3000 HAM that can heal them self on top of that?That wouldn't even be worth the 3-4 seconds it takes a CM to through it.Giving CM a 75% reduction would only destroy the profession. Then they would have to take it out of the game cause it would suck. If I where you I wouldn't hold my breath for a 75% reduction to CM or you might pass out!







Do you really think a 150-200 points of damage tickevery 10 seconds is going to do anything to a buffed person with over 3000 HAM that can heal them self on top of that?


Yes it will do something. Last time I checked CM's go for the mind which isnt exactly healable and the only way your mind is gonna get around 3K is to take brandy and get dancer/musician buffs.


Giving CM a 75% reduction would only destroy the profession.


Like every other proffession without a stun weapon?


If I where you I wouldn't hold my breath for a 75% reduction to CM or you might pass out!


Trust me a long awaited nerf is coming, a dot that is thrown from 95m and has a 99.9% chance to hit, that bypasses armor, that can be spammed and has no immunity time,has no regard to the75% damage reduction,which comes fromaSUPPORTclass doesnt seem overpowered to me.






Swordsman have no stun and they are pretty damn good in pvp. Everybody has 3k brandy in pvp right now. CM do need many ifxes but I hope they dont get a nerf. You may not have been a bh for very long, but I hope you remember the nerf we got. I dont want stuff like that happening to other profs as well.



Havarian
Master Pirate

saladin123
Tue May 18, 2004 6:29 pm
#23

People need a way to defend against poisons and deseases, like armor layers or something.



Havarian
Master Pirate

saladin123
Tue May 18, 2004 6:31 pm
#24






haho wrote:

Ok Ive got a couple of point regarding PVP and combat medics. Master combat medic and master rifleman is pretty much the uber template for PVP right now. Whenever we have done any PVP on Infinity server the winner of the events usually boils down to who has the most combat medics.


Im just wondering, do combat medics want to see everyone who PVPs to become combat medics? As in effect your pretty much worthless in PVP unless your combat medic/rifleman. Those mind ticks are massive and eat through your mind which you cannot stim heal. Add to the master head shot and your dead in no time.


So Star Wars Galaxies will basically become Combat Medic Galaxies (and may I add that Combat Medic is not a very 'star warsy' profession, name one combat medic in any of the films? lol). And even throughout history of real wars when has a combat medic been the most offensive persons on the battlefield? Never.... so why are they here?


Getting back onto topic, do you guys really think you should be able to throw poisons/diseases for 96m and through walls? Also if they do give CMs a 75% reduction you will still be doing 150-200 damage in PVP, which is still pretty decent and in line with other combat professions....



So do you think combat medic should be the uber profession for PVP, and if you do think that, would you be happy to see PVP pretty much everyone as CM/RM? Or do you think thats really not SWG pvp should be like?




I will name lots of profs that are unstarwayrsy. Tailor. Chef. Doctor. Swordsman. Image designer. this game would suck if it were only people running around with blasters and waving glow sticks. There has to be some variety.




Havarian
Master Pirate

ducksauce
Tue May 18, 2004 6:36 pm
#25

sounds like you're not a cm it's not as glorious in battle as you seem to think it is
saladin123
Tue May 18, 2004 6:38 pm
#26






ducksauce wrote:
sounds like you're not a cm it's not as glorious in battle as you seem to think it is






Are you a cm? rofl of course cm is pretty damn glorious right now. I dont have to worry about armor blocking my attacks or anything blocking it for that matter. I love cm and I dont want a huge nerf, but there definetly needs to be more protections against it.



Havarian
Master Pirate

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