Combat Medic Archive
Thread: Now that the range bug is fixed, can we revisit the poison incap issue?
Only when you don't have the resource to craft advanced component, then you're stuck wtih 89-90ish potency poison packs which will have an approximately 7-15% chance of resist and in-order to incrase the potency, either effectiveness or range will have to be sacrificed.
So really it's moot.
Do you know what moot means?
You can craft poisons that hit everytime. No one can craft melee or ranged that hit everytime.
You choose not to use too many points on potency but you can choose to make things stick everytime. We have an advantage here. I'm not saying we are uber leet or however you spell that crap but we do get an advantage when it comes to getting our weapon to hit.
Mmaxx wrote:
Do you know what moot means?
You can craft poisons that hit everytime. No one can craft melee or ranged that hit everytime.
You choose not to use too many points on potency but you can choose to make things stick everytime. We have an advantage here. I'm not saying we are uber leet or however you spell that crap but we do get an advantage when it comes to getting our weapon to hit.
Yes, I know what the word moot means. Because this whole discussion about rifleman vs CM is exactly what it is. MOOT!!
It's a moot point for you to discuss about crafting melee or ranged weapon that hits everytime. It's a moot point for you to discuss Rifleman vs CM because thereare so manydissimilarities between the two classes that a discussion to compare the two is MOOT!!
There, do you know what I'm trying to say now? Again, it's a MOOT point!!
Mmaxx wrote:
ok relax there just a bit. Breath.have some decaf, maybe with a bit of Baileys in it.
I was just disagreeing with your example of using aweak potency poison. He could easily counter that a CDEF rifle has nowhere near the DPS of a good poison. Your 68 potency poison is the DLT20 of the rifle world. No one wants to use it but if that's all you got then that's what you use. Both are poor in combat situations. It was a weak couter argument and I apologize for pointing it out.
How about this, you both had valid points. If we are to compare a normal rifle and normal poison. Chances are good that the poison will stick everytime and chances are good that overall the rifle will do more DPS.
Of course you're discounting the fact that I want to have the ability to erase the potential damage that the Rifle or any weapon that could cause me with in 10 seconds in one application as the doctor can do against CM's poison/disease.
I think that's a fair trade. Give riflemanthe limitation of 4 second delay + 4 seconds animation and 10 seconds delay of damage effect and also a cure for that potential damage. And I'll accept the accuracy rating the riflemen inherit along with the Range Damage mitigation 3 and defense vs Ranged attack bonus and block bonus.
Except fighting against a Jedi with high sabre block, Rifleman rarely misses with their attacks, especially with the accuracy modifiers available.
Of course you're discounting the fact that I want to have the ability to erase the potential damage that the Rifle or any weapon that could cause me with in 10 seconds in one application as the doctor can do against CM's poison/disease.
I think that's a fair trade. Give riflemanthe limitation of 4 second delay + 4 seconds animation and 10 seconds delay of damage effect and also a cure for that potential damage. And I'll accept the accuracy rating the riflemen inherit along with the Range Damage mitigation 3 and defense vs Ranged attack bonus and block bonus.
Except fighting against a Jedi with high sabre block, Rifleman rarely misses with their attacks, especially with the accuracy modifiers available.
Mmaxx wrote:
I thought this was about CMs having the ability of hitting more frequently then other classes....... Nothing to do with what hapens after that hit, nothing to do with who "wins", just that we tend to hit our targets just about everytime. We do not have to suffer the same accuracy penalities that others suffer.
It appears you won't admit your argument was poor and are trying to bring more things into it to try to distract from it. ranged damage mitigation? that affects our poisons? really? ... yeah that justifies your example of CMs using 68 potency poisins.
You've moved on to other points so I'll drop it.
Since I don't use my 68 potency poison as he doesn't use his CDEF rifle, it is a moot point. However if you scroll back and read my high lighted response back to him, I was simply pointing out the error of hisunderstanding. He's making a generalization of CM's poison packs NEVER miss just as I would say that Rifleman always do 500 damage to mind pool with Headshot.
There is nothing to admit regarding to my argument because it was not an argument as much as an enlightenment. So if you feel that I'm arguing then feel free to debate me. I'm more than happy to share my enlightenment because I'm truly enlightened.
TsunamiKata wrote:
Morath360 wrote:
Do I detect a bit of contempt here for our Wookiee brethern? Are we feeling a bit emotional today? Is the whole world down on TsunamiKata today? I'll give ya a couple gold stars..
No, I'm just in a perpetual pissed off mood whenever I come on to the CM forum board. That's why I don't come here as much as I used to, simply because of the nay sayers and nerf cryers.
Well at least you care enough to come. That is a good thing..
regarding to my argument because it was not an argument as much as an enlightenment. So if you feel that I'm arguing then feel free to debate me. I'm more than happy to share my enlightenment because I'm truly enlightened.
If by enlightened you mean as negative as one can possibly be then I agree. I've read your other posts today and they all seam to have the same tone "I'm right no matter what and you are all wrong".
BTW on that other page you made a very pretty poison, second best I've ever seen in fact..... now where did I see the better one...mmmm
I'm done with this today. post once more since I know you will but after thatplease let this thing drop off to page 3 at least. This entirethread contains no comments that are the least bit constructive. Actually if would be a blessing if this one were deleted.
Mmaxx wrote:
regarding to my argument because it was not an argument as much as an enlightenment. So if you feel that I'm arguing then feel free to debate me. I'm more than happy to share my enlightenment because I'm truly enlightened.
If by enlightened you mean as negative as one can possibly be then I agree. I've read your other posts today and they all seam to have the same tone "I'm right no matter what and you are all wrong".
BTW on that other page you made a very pretty poison, second best I've ever seen in fact..... now where did I see the better one...mmmm
I've been enlightened to know that no matter what I do, say or promote, there will always be nay sayers and nerf cryers on this forum. And that is the true enlightenment that I've obtained.
Anyway, kudos to those who can make a better poison than my Area As. The only reason I made that was to delight myself and also it was just an odd venom left, might as well put it to good use.
I personally don't see why poison has to incap. If they're down to 1 HAM, shoot it with your weapon. If you're incapped, you shouldn't get XP for something you didn't kill while you were alive anyway.