Combat Medic Archive

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vortexala wrote:

I have been assured that the changes are in P10 and are currently on TC and TC2.

Have I tested them yet? Nope. TC and TC2 are too jedi-centered focus testing for me to go over there and try and do anything else. So, instead, I'm waiting for it to go live and we all get a shot at seeing what they're all about.

Like I said before, these changes can't make anything worse... I hope.

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As long as the changes don't let CMs become "crowd control" in PvP like they used to be I'm down with the changes. Rest assured if CM is made unbalancedcompared tothe rest of the game after the new changes I'll raise some hell. Nothing is worse than 1-3 people single handedly destroying an army. I can see why you guys are so reluctant to let that power go and so ready to turn a blind eye to anything that slips under the carpet in your favor.

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Ternque01 wrote:

As long as the changes don't let CMs become "crowd control" in PvP like they used to be I'm down with the changes. Rest assured if CM is made unbalancedcompared tothe rest of the game after the new changes I'll raise some hell. Nothing is worse than 1-3 people single handedly destroying an army. I can see why you guys are so reluctant to let that power go and so ready to turn a blind eye to anything that slips under the carpet in your favor.

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Ternque01 wrote:

I'm not trying to be cruel, just present my honest opinion here. I'm afraid that if the resist buff effectiveness gets lowered so significantly that poisons stick everytime like they used to then this "CM balance" will be all for nothing. Anyone have any idea how hard it is to craft resist buff C's?

Yes, as a matter of fact, I do. It's almost as hard as gathering advanced resources needed to make DoTs.

Am I a troll? No. This is my opinion, and I state it without calling names.

Just because you don't call people names doesn't not make you a troll. True, I honestly belive you think you aren't trolling.

If you think I'm trolling please try reading my sentences over without a misread in my intentions or tone. Text makes it hard to present "opposing" points of view without automatically reading a crass tone into them. That I won't appologise for.

"As long as the changes don't let CMs become "crowd control" in PvP like they used to be I'm down with the changes. Rest assured if CM is made unbalancedcompared tothe rest of the game after the new changes I'll raise some hell.What is the purpose of this statement? Did you think we would expect otherwise from you?

Nothing is worse than 1-3 people single handedly destroying an army.

Beat this dead horse some more. I've never heard this argument before....Honest. The reason I resort to sarcasm here is because it is the most compassionate for to express how i really feel at this moment. The wisest thing for me to do would be to wait 24 hours to respond to this post. But hey, why should I be one of the few to show restraint all the time. The original intent of this post was not some leet dude saying he/she wants to continue to roxxor in PvP. The fix to the new resists was announced, the time passed, and they did not show up. The original poster was asking if the new changes were still planned to go into effect. Texxie checked, found the new time frame they were set to go in and headed off the next logical question. No, he did not get a chance to test them yet. Texxie was even kind enough to state why he has not had a chance to test them. In fact, I will go out on a limb and say that the Corrs were all busy being involved in the change (which delayed publish 10) that prevented people who want to unlock but haven't yet from having to grind twice in order to do so.

I can see why you guys are so reluctant to let that power go and so ready to turn a blind eye to anything that slips under the carpet in your favor."

This is the statement that pisses me off. You read it again. Tell me I am off base for being upset at the implication any of the regular CMs (not the trollers) that post in these forums would do anything as dishonorable as not reporting something that should be reported, even if it is to our advantage. Zarlor reported several issues of this nature....as did Kavedawg. How do I know? Because I went back and read every one of their posts concerning combat medicine in the correspondent's forum when I was a correspondent. And I did the same thing. How do I know Texxie does the same thing? Several reasons, the most obvious of which are the time I have gotten to know him from his posts in the forum, and the time I spent sending TH several emails and PMs trying to find my replacement (which turned into a process of over 2 months duration.)

No one has tested the new equation to be used for the resist buff effectiveness. I'm deadly curious on how they will work because if resist B's turn out to block 33% of the time I will raise some hell- resist C's are so hard to get ahold of.

Bug the TC docs about this...better yet, if it is such an issue to you, next time they make a TC2 where you can jump to a full template, create a Doc/CM and test them youself. I'll say it again. I have a harder time getting a hold of resources for my combat meds than i do for the resists.

You guys should relax and just think that maybe I'm not your enemy. Have a good day

There was a sympathetic tone towards your post in certain parts of it.Unfortunately, it got drowned out by the rest of your post. If you don't want us to react to how you were so upset about 1-3 people ruining your Pvp...Don't bring it up. Especially in a thread where it was not brought up by somebody besides you. If you get upsetwhen we respond toimplications that CMs turn a blind eye to issues that would hurt the profession should they be fixed, don't imply them.

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• Disrupting the constructive attempt to figure out when a fix that was promised and was not delivered will come about if ever.


• Complaints of how hard it is to gather resources/buy the services of a resist buff in the profession forums of a prof that did not get those resists. (was it you in the recent past that I searched for how many posts you had in the doc forums vs the CM forums Axob?)


• Bringing up out of nowhere past arguments known to cause flaming in these forums (1-3 CMs can ruin the whole PvP experience)


• Attacking the integrity of regular constructive posters in this forum in a thread where there is no previous flaming, let alone a thread where flamming had already begun

That's why I consider it trolling.

Edit: typo fixing

Message Edited by Pahdbacca on 08-29-2004 03:02 PM

As a long time cm and former doc I believe poison resist buffs should be difficult to produce. It puts doc crafting on par with ours. CMs invest a lot of time and money in making poisons, why shouldnt docs invest any less to counter them?

Currently A lvl curse can negate C lvl poisons. B lvl buffs resist C lvl poisons. This is not balanced but a troll like yourself cant comprehend the word.

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Ternque01 wrote:

I'm not trying to be cruel, just present my honest opinion here. I'm afraid that if the resist buff effectiveness gets lowered so significantly that poisons stick everytime like they used to then this "CM balance" will be all for nothing. Anyone have any idea how hard it is to craft resist buff C's?

Am I a troll? No. This is my opinion, and I state it without calling names. If you think I'm trolling please try reading my sentences over without a misread in my intentions or tone. Text makes it hard to present "opposing" points of view without automatically reading a crass tone into them. That I won't appologise for.

No one has tested the new equation to be used for the resist buff effectiveness. I'm deadly curious on how they will work because if resist B's turn out to block 33% of the time I will raise some hell - resist C's are so hard to get ahold of.

You guys should relax and just think that maybe I'm not your enemy. Have a good day

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He is not a troll no more than anyone else that disagrees with you. The facts are that combat has been much funner as of late with the CM's ruining it for everyone. Why don't we just wait and see what it does before we get all up in arms. You guys have been on top for a very long time while other professions have been neglected. 2 wrongs don't make a right but the least you can do is have a little patience until we see the actuals..

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Morath360 wrote:

He is not a troll no more than anyone else that disagrees with you.

(he hijacked the thread (trolling) he started baiting with old news that is known to start flames (1-3 CMs ruin the game for many people (trolling)) implied that the regular posting CMs in this forum turn a blind eye to bugs when it suits their needs (trolling). None of this was mentiond before he became involved in the thread (trolling).

The facts are that combat has been much funner as of late with the CM's ruining it for everyone. (you mean without?)(you are trolling with this statement by the way)

Why don't we just wait and see what it does before we get all up in arms. Who is we? you and axom? You and the rest of the trolls? Certainly not you and the people trying to answer the original question in this thread. Nobody got up into arms before the trolling started.

You guys have been on top for a very long time while other professions have been neglected. 2 wrongs don't make a right One wrong doesn't make a right either.

but the least you can do is have a little patience until we see the actuals.. This thread was patient until the trolling began.

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Ternque01 wrote:

I'm not trying to be cruel, just present my honest opinion here.

please, go post your honest opinions on the board that deals with your personal profession. we have already heard enough to have a good sense of your personal opinion.

I'm afraid that if the resist buff effectiveness gets lowered so significantly that poisons stick everytime like they used to then this "CM balance" will be all for nothing.

while we have not asked for that, it is interesting that you would mention it. but area cures will still negate cm effectiveness, as they do in combat with un-buffed adversaries.

Anyone have any idea how hard it is to craft resist buff C's?

it should be hard. yes, i have made them. but they are hardly the point. area heals are the point.

Am I a troll? No.

au, contraire! yes, you are!

This is my opinion, and I state it without calling names.

stating your opinion does not exclude you from being labeled a troll. trolls have opinions, and they state them.

If you think I'm trolling please try reading my sentences over without a misread in my intentions or tone.

having read many of your posts, i have come to a variant conclusion: please see above.

Text makes it hard to present "opposing" points of view without automatically reading a crass tone into them. That I won't appologise for.

because that tone is intended?

No one has tested the new equation to be used for the resist buff effectiveness. I'm deadly curious on how they will work because if resist B's turn out to block 33% of the time I will raise some hell- resist C's are so hard to get ahold of.

as they should be. i have a crate, how about you?

and a 33% negation of a weapon is not too shabby. even a PSG only mitigates damage, not completely negates it. but you miss the point. area cures are the problem, not enhanced resist buffs. yeah, those are clearly too strong, and they need to be weakened substancially, especially the a's and b's, but they can be overcome. the area heals for docs are just wrong.

You guys should relax and just think that maybe I'm not your enemy.

when we see some sign that you are on our side, we will let you know. otherwise, you are the enemy.

Have a good day

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Pahdbacca wrote:

I can see why you guys are so reluctant to let that power go and so ready to turn a blind eye to anything that slips under the carpet in your favor."

This is the statement that pisses me off. You read it again. Tell me I am off base for being upset at the implication any of the regular CMs (not the trollers) that post in these forums would do anything as dishonorable as not reporting something that should be reported, even if it is to our advantage. Zarlor reported several issues of this nature....as did Kavedawg. How do I know? Because I went back and read every one of their posts concerning combat medicine in the correspondent's forum when I was a correspondent. And I did the same thing. How do I know Texxie does the same thing? Several reasons, the most obvious of which are the time I have gotten to know him from his posts in the forum, and the time I spent sending TH several emails and PMs trying to find my replacement (which turned into a process of over 2 months duration.)

Sorry you feel this way. I saw vortexala literally say that he'd be turning a blind eye to testing the changes in the hopes that they get sent out "as is". Funny thing is that we don't really know what "as is" is anyway. Like someone said above. Perhaps we should drop the confrontation here. My style of writing is telling things like I see them. If that comes off as hard, perhaps I can compensate and be sensitive.

No one has tested the new equation to be used for the resist buff effectiveness. I'm deadly curious on how they will work because if resist B's turn out to block 33% of the time I will raise some hell- resist C's are so hard to get ahold of.

Bug the TC docs about this...better yet, if it is such an issue to you, next time they make a TC2 where you can jump to a full template, create a Doc/CM and test them youself. I'll say it again. I have a harder time getting a hold of resources for my combat meds than i do for the resists.

I'm no doc. I don't even know how to put a bandaid on someone in the SWG universe. I am a combatant, not a medical specialist.

You guys should relax and just think that maybe I'm not your enemy. Have a good day

There was a sympathetic tone towards your post in certain parts of it.Unfortunately, it got drowned out by the rest of your post. If you don't want us to react to how you were so upset about 1-3 people ruining your Pvp...Don't bring it up. Especially in a thread where it was not brought up by somebody besides you. If you get upsetwhen we respond toimplications that CMs turn a blind eye to issues that would hurt the profession should they be fixed, don't imply them.

Hey buddy, that's 6 months of frustration with the only part of the game that I really dig getting ruined by yes... 1-3 people. Stretch that "sympathy" to accept that thereare still memories of that floating around this game. The CM dominance in PvP is a "cultural memory" that is a part of our community unfortunately. Human experiences with thevictim/attacker scenario (CM dominace/melee-ranged-victimhood) have left a scar. I can imagine you thinking "what a whiner" or "please, don't gimme this crap" when I talk about this. Human psychology studies would predict just such a reaction, but it still notes that the damage done to the "victim" in this situation is much more than the "attacker" (CM community) would percieve.

Like me, hate me, you're just hearing about my experiences in the game. You don't have to have sympathy, I'm not asking for any. I'm sharing a part of me when I post here and I like to tell it how it is for me. Take what you want from it. Pity you should take it so bad. All I'm saying is that it kinda urks me when I see a "sweep it under the rug" attitude when that attitude could mean returning to the6 months of incredibly hard and NOT fun PvP that I've had to put up with. That's how I feel. Pick it apart. Take it to heart. Whatever.

If the thought that I don't want to see a return to the old days seem trolling to you, take it softly. I ain't pressing the idea into your brain. If the idea that 1-3 people can destroy combat seems tough to you, fine, check your PvP battle histories - they say all that I don't even have to. That happened, that was real, that is history. I will bring it up when and wherever I feel. If you don't like it, ignore me and stop feeding my troll ways.

I'm just trying to carry on a conversation. At some point in this threads conversational flow I saw that a few of you were just like "screw testing this, let's get it through". As crass as you took my reply to that sentiment - which I meant to share my comments, feelings, and reactionson those statements - it's a shame that you took that as trolling. Move on.

I'm sure my original "message" has been amplified, understood, and spread all over this thread. That wasn't my intention, but it is nice that at least one of my ideas made it big here. Maybe I'll amend it now in a more tasty and palatable form for you now. "It would sure not be swell if poisons/diseases stick nearly every time with the changes. Reminds me of the old days. Those were not good days."

There ya go! A non-trolling version of the way I feel. Simple, sweet, and on a third grade level. (So I can read it) Perhaps we can all move on now eh? Gooood

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