Combat Medic Archive
Thread: Thyroid rupture: -40.00 combat speed, unbalanced
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DustusNavar
Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:12 pm
#1
Doctor speed buff: nerfed in publish 21
Jedi speed buff: nerfed in publish 21
Stacking Jedi and Doctor speed buffs: nerfed in publish 21
Combat Medic speed debuff: unchanged
I'm pointing this out not only as a jedi player, but asmy alter-egoBH/CM player, too. I think it sucks that all the + speed buff are getting nerfed, but that being the case then the only balacing thing to do with thyroid rupture is to reduce its effects as well. Not a popular thing to say, but given the other changes it only makes sense.
I suppose this is where the flames begin. 
Jedi Padawan
Rebel Colonel
Felken
Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:15 pm
#2
I agree with you. I'm going to get Jedi Enhancer and the speed buff would be nice. I'm also Cm and think that this needs reduction or nerfing as well. But like you said let the flames begin. Or for the CM's Deuterium toss' begin.
lycanthropy
Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:20 pm
#3
sorry i have to stab the CM's in the back on this one, if docs get their speed buff reduced the CM's sure the hell need their speed reduction debuff reduced to the same amount.
Spookibus
Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:50 pm
#5
Thyroid rupture is an attack. It takes time and pool points to land, and you have to be up close. The buffs can be applied anywhere at any time.
Don't nerf a useful ability because one of your own was being abused.
Zimal
Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:50 pm
#6
i think to solve their orignial issue which was stacking jedi speed with doc speed... would just to make them not stack... there problem solved... no 'nerfing' required of anyone.... but no, they have to reduce it from 40 to 25 points.... however that 25 still stacks with the jedi what is it 15... to be a 40....
oh well guess i'm just being a little whinny... ok end of my pathetic little rant... but my idea as to a solution still stands 
uberchief
Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:58 pm
#7
Zimal wrote:i think to solve their orignial issue which was stacking jedi speed with doc speed... would just to make them not stack... there problem solved... no 'nerfing' required of anyone.... but no, they have to reduce it from 40 to 25 points.... however that 25 still stacks with the jedi what is it 15... to be a 40....
oh well guess i'm just being a little whinny... ok end of my pathetic little rant... but my idea as to a solution still stands
SOE doesnt do logic remember
eapers
Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:52 pm
#8
I feel that its alright if debuffs have more "anti" value than buffs have value because they are attacks which need to be landed and have a (relative to buff duration) short duration.
That said, I agree that this change is being poorly implemented. Instead of removing the ability for the speeds to stack, they are simply going to nerf each. This allows jedi to continue to be fastest swingers (if they have whatever template allows the speed buff).
That said, I agree that this change is being poorly implemented. Instead of removing the ability for the speeds to stack, they are simply going to nerf each. This allows jedi to continue to be fastest swingers (if they have whatever template allows the speed buff).
sArAhBrIgHtMaN
Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:57 pm
#9
Spookibus wrote:
Thyroid rupture is an attack. It takes time and pool points to land, and you have to be up close. The buffs can be applied anywhere at any time.
Don't nerf a useful ability because one of your own was being abused.
any skill can be considered abuse if it becomes popular and combined with other buffs/skills of similar power. if you want to go that route we can bring up the topic of paralyse, i am sure alot can say THAT skill is abused!
PsionicHawk
Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:57 pm
#10
I've always believed that actions that need to be applied while in combat should have more of an effect then actions applied outside of combat.
Since buffs can be applied while at peace with ease and a relative long duration it is justified that CM De-buffs can overpower doctor buffs.
Since buffs can be applied while at peace with ease and a relative long duration it is justified that CM De-buffs can overpower doctor buffs.
sArAhBrIgHtMaN
Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:59 pm
#11
well if you were to place the ability of doctor next to combat medic, as far as usefulness doctor is at the bottom, so i don't care how much the combat medics dislike what i am going to say BUT! you guys seriously deserve a couple hits with the nerf bat.
Samurai_XD
Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:15 pm
#12
A doctor is made for healing and enhancing your bhattle play, combat medic is the neutrilizer that takes it out, doctros can heal while running, and combat medics get range and snares and debuffs such as thyroid rupture to help in it, its not like the debusff lasts for 15 minutes the the doctor one
Eked
Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:11 pm
#13
PsionicHawk wrote:
I've always believed that actions that need to be applied while in combat should have more of an effect then actions applied outside of combat.
Since buffs can be applied while at peace with ease and a relative long duration it is justified that CM De-buffs can overpower doctor buffs.
agree.. hope it stays as is.
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