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Thread: Tired of the whiners

Jaardan
Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:40 am
#1

I'm fairly new to the game, been playing since December, and one thing I've noticed is all the whiners in this game. It's unbelievable. People complain about some profession having more power over the other, about if a profession was REALLY in the movies/books or not, and about pretty much everything.


First off, stop complaining about one profession being more powerful than another. If SOE wants this game to be more realistic, they'll leave it like it is. In life, things aren't always balanced. Someone is always going to be a little tougher than the next guy.Soon I fear it'll get to the point where it's too unrealistic. I've been killed more times than I care to admit in PvP but don't whine about it. I take it like a man and keep going. If I want to beat the person who beat me, it's up to me to get the necessary skills to beat him or her, NOT whine to the dev's to reduce THEIR power while increasing mine and "levelling the playing field".


Second, I don't give a rat's behind if CM or TKA was really in themovie or not. This is a game. If you're so concerned about realism, stop playing all together because when you get down to it,just how realistic is it that people can "use the force"? That people live on other planets, fly in space ships, that a doc canenhance your health, thatrancors, grauls, force-sensitive creatures, and a whole host of other un-realistic things canexist?


Come on. Grow up and stop all the complaining. It's all the whiners who take the fun out of this game and it's time for SOE to stop paying so much attention to them. I guess that's about the only thing in this game that is truly realistic..The squeeky wheel gets the grease.






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_Flash_
Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:46 am
#2

preach it brotha



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Deeblo_Edoa
Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:41 pm
#3

The realistic part of this game is that there will always be people who will complain about anything, just like real life. So until the Empire bans the freedom of speech we CMs will just have to carry on.
JudasTyberius
Sun Feb 29, 2004 3:27 pm
#4

People have been crying Nerf the CM since the end of month 1. It's the way it is...



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wopppp
Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:08 pm
#5

well if ONE guy can ruin a group by throwing aoe poison then disease (just for fun) on mind then i'd cry for a nerf. call me whiner, i'd prefer a fair game than a full cm vs fencer/riflemen.


On the other hand i can understand all cm's that don't want their profession nerfed it's so good to play god sometimes...


VTmoon
Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:10 pm
#6






wopppp wrote:

call me whiner.







whiner.




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TsavhongLah
Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:20 pm
#7

Today a group of 47 Rebels attacked one base. We were poisoned and diseased through the wall by ONE CM. We manage to rush in and kill him, by the time that was done, there was something like 15 rebels left. Another 5 died from just sitting there. I fail to see how you can see one profession taking out nearly 40 people is in any way cool. The one CM liked it. The 38-ish people he killed didn't. Until stuff like this is fixed, you better learn to like whiners.




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PanzerGR
Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:31 pm
#8






TsavhongLah wrote:
Today a group of 47 Rebels attacked one base. We were poisoned and diseased through the wall by ONE CM. We manage to rush in and kill him, by the time that was done, there was something like 15 rebels left. Another 5 died from just sitting there. I fail to see how you can see one profession taking out nearly 40 people is in any way cool. The one CM liked it. The 38-ish people he killed didn't. Until stuff like this is fixed, you better learn to like whiners.







and thats exactly the problem which all these CM's dotn take into account


"but we are easy to kill....we have no defenses....all we get is poison" blah blah


it is REAL...and i mean REAL easy for a CM to get out of harms way especially if theres 2 equal sized forces facing off on each other...and lots of cheap tricks (poison then hopping on a bike...burst run....etc).


the fact that ONE person can indeed influence the outcome of game sis all the matter. YOu practically have to carry 2 doctors and 3 CM's in your pocket just to counter the CM's the other guy has and its completely whacked. This games PvP is no fun for me and th eprimary reasonf or that is poison.





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RhenGordon
Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:54 pm
#9






PanzerGR wrote:





TsavhongLah wrote:
Today a group of 47 Rebels attacked one base. We were poisoned and diseased through the wall by ONE CM. We manage to rush in and kill him, by the time that was done, there was something like 15 rebels left. Another 5 died from just sitting there. I fail to see how you can see one profession taking out nearly 40 people is in any way cool. The one CM liked it. The 38-ish people he killed didn't. Until stuff like this is fixed, you better learn to like whiners.







and thats exactly the problem which all these CM's dotn take into account


"but we are easy to kill....we have no defenses....all we get is poison" blah blah


it is REAL...and i mean REAL easy for a CM to get out of harms way especially if theres 2 equal sized forces facing off on each other...and lots of cheap tricks (poison then hopping on a bike...burst run....etc).


the fact that ONE person can indeed influence the outcome of game sis all the matter. YOu practically have to carry 2 doctors and 3 CM's in your pocket just to counter the CM's the other guy has and its completely whacked. This games PvP is no fun for me and th eprimary reasonf or that is poison.






Listen to you! You crying because you have to bring all the tools with you to win? Oh I'm sure the Iraqis were saying we could win this war if ti wasn't for the smart bombs, the tanks, the machineguns, and maybe the organization.


Seriously if you have to bring a CM, then you bring a CM, We have said this time and time again, the group that brings the most diverse group of people to the battlefield will win. That means you have your tanks, your ranged specialists, your high damage guys, and your healers ALL WORKING TOGETHER. You have to have that to win. I know you hear people crying on EQ that they need to have clerics, shamans and enchanters to take on the bigger mobs, but that is how it is done.


Seriously, each person in the crew has a role to play in the large battle. The problem with many people is they do not know how to play their character much less the role they play in a group.


The reason for this is there is no group content. People do not have to learn to play together in this game, and that is the travesty that is effecting you more than one class being too powerful.





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Jaardan
Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:35 am
#10

Several replies on here are classic examples of what I'm talking about. I don't get into PvP, so I can't jump in with my own horrid stories of CM's gone wild. I do know, however, that it's all about winning, isn't it? Don't you want every single advantage you can have when competing?


Another example of how people cry about CM's..The other day I was asked to duel in a friendly sort of way. Again, I'm not into PvP but I see nothing wrong with a little duel from time to time. As Rifleman/Cm, i obviously have no melee skills, but a TK master wanted to duel and I accepted. What was his first move? Guess..Knockdown. Fortunately I managed to get up and promptly poisoned him, and began shooting, at which time he ended the duel and cried "foul" on my part simply because I used poison. The message I took from that was, it's ok for others to use their skills, yet I can't. A CM alone can't kill anyone because damage stops at 1 point..So, if I poison, get knocked down, and he stomps a mudhole in my rear, sure, his health might tick down to 1, but he'll still be alive. I get knocked down and can't get back up, can't defend myself, and get db'd or incapped, and WE have the advantage?? Are you guys out there doing all the whining on crack or something?




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Dvarrien
Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:15 am
#11






wopppp wrote:

well if ONE guy can ruin a group by throwing aoe poison then disease (just for fun) on mind then i'd cry for a nerf. call me whiner, i'd prefer a fair game than a full cm vs fencer/riflemen.


On the other hand i can understand all cm's that don't want their profession nerfed it's so good to play god sometimes...









well the thing is some classes are made for PvE some are made for PvP (duels) and some are made for PvP (raids) for example. if you are a RM or BH and you duel a TKM (starting in his range witch is the propor way to duel) your going to get killed. and if you come are a REB and you come and raid bestine if there are combat medics you are going to get poisined or if there are comandos your going to get flamed or blown up...stop whining....we put our time XP and skill points into getting these skills and you put your time XP and skill points into getting your skills...if our classes are better at one thing then yours are and you don't like that then don't complain...of course a jedi is going to beable to kill a pistoler, of course a doc is going to heal better then a medic and of course a comando or combat medic is going to beable to kill you in one way or another during a raid...if you people want this game realistic then bring in the nukes and get rid of the buffs, jedi, skill mods, the fact that melee classes get a hitting bonus on gunners, the fact that LLCs can make a stright line of lighting, the fact the the acid in acid rifles don't melt the gun itself, the list goes on and on but the truth is if this game was realistic then it would be hell and i would beable to take my pistol as a nov marksman shoot a master comando in the head and he would be dead also i would beable to take a bone armor helet and bash it into anyoneshead till they are dead....so if the game was realistic then it would be even more unbalenced then it is now or was when the game first started so in conclusion i like hotdogs




oh BTW whiner....

VTmoon
Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:43 am
#12






Dvarrien wrote:





wopppp wrote:

well if ONE guy can ruin a group by throwing aoe poison then disease (just for fun) on mind then i'd cry for a nerf. call me whiner, i'd prefer a fair game than a full cm vs fencer/riflemen.


On the other hand i can understand all cm's that don't want their profession nerfed it's so good to play god sometimes...









well the thing is some classes are made for PvE some are made for PvP (duels) and some are made for PvP (raids) for example. if you are a RM or BH and you duel a TKM (starting in his range witch is the propor way to duel) your going to get killed. and if you come are a REB and you come and raid bestine if there are combat medics you are going to get poisined or if there are comandos your going to get flamed or blown up...stop whining....we put our time XP and skill points into getting these skills and you put your time XP and skill points into getting your skills...if our classes are better at one thing then yours are and you don't like that then don't complain...of course a jedi is going to beable to kill a pistoler, of course a doc is going to heal better then a medic and of course a comando or combat medic is going to beable to kill you in one way or another during a raid...if you people want this game realistic then bring in the nukes and get rid of the buffs, jedi, skill mods, the fact that melee classes get a hitting bonus on gunners, the fact that LLCs can make a stright line of lighting, the fact the the acid in acid rifles don't melt the gun itself, the list goes on and on but the truth is if this game was realistic then it would be hell and i would beable to take my pistol as a nov marksman shoot a master comando in the head and he would be dead also i would beable to take a bone armor helet and bash it into anyoneshead till they are dead....so if the game was realistic then it would be even more unbalenced then it is now or was when the game first started so in conclusion i like hotdogs




oh BTW whiner....







LOL




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Dvarrien
Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:06 pm
#13






PanzerGR wrote:



it is REAL...and i mean REAL easy for a CM to get out of harms way especially if theres 2 equal sized forces facing off on each other...and lots of cheap tricks (poison then hopping on a bike...burst run....etc).




hey its not like only CMs can burst run or get on a bike and its also not like you guys cant shoot us.....i mean we burst run you burst run also....we get on a bike u burst run so you can keep up in range for a lil wile and destroy our bikes....they have like no health.....and yeah your right we may not have any defence but we can poison but dont act like it makes us the strongest class wee dont get any good poisons till we are master CMs and yes masters should have good poisons just like TKMs have good unarmed skills or like comandos have good heavy wepon skills.....we are masters at the skill and we are going to give a good ranged AOE poison....wut do you think we should just give you a cold

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