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Thread: Everyone keeps talking of the 800 tick poison.

HazuyaMune
Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:02 pm
#1

Where are all the 800 tick poison's at. On Valcyn I found one other CM selling poison's and they were roughly in the same range as mine. On area I get around 250/270 a tick and on singles about 450/470. All this nerf talk is based on the fact that we make 800 tick poisons all the time. Unless you have been CM for several months and gathered the very bestresources can stuff like that be crafted. I'm sure people have done it butfrom what I have seen it isnt very common or they arent selling it.I won't buy others poisons because I want to make it. I think that is half the fun.


I think the best thing to do is to take the very best attacks on all the combat professions and leave it for when you master it. I don't know TKA or BH or Commando, but for Rifleman save headshot 3, mindshot 2, deathblow and the ranged mitigations just for Masters.To satisfy the nerf hearders make alladvanced schematics available only to Master. Take all the highest level attacks and defences on all combat proff. and make them only available to masters of the proff.


I have been Mas. CM for about a month and I was Rifleman when I started the game. The shame is that i don't enjoy PvP that much and if it gets nerfed than I lose because I do PvE. Its the gung ho PvPers that are directing the way the game goes and they are in the extreme minority.


Finally, any poison or diease that I sell will be crafted at the highest level that I can make it just to knock out the "template" yahoos.


I think it iswrong for the minority tohave the game constructed to what suits them best.



HAZUYA MUNE
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Zurck
Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:10 pm
#2






HazuyaMune wrote:

Where are all the 800 tick poison's at. On Valcyn I found one other CM selling poison's and they were roughly in the same range as mine. On area I get around 250/270 a tick and on singles about 450/470. All this nerf talk is based on the fact that we make 800 tick poisons all the time. Unless you have been CM for several months and gathered the very bestresources can stuff like that be crafted. I'm sure people have done it butfrom what I have seen it isnt very common or they arent selling it.I won't buy others poisons because I want to make it. I think that is half the fun.


I think the best thing to do is to take the very best attacks on all the combat professions and leave it for when you master it. I don't know TKA or BH or Commando, but for Rifleman save headshot 3, mindshot 2, deathblow and the ranged mitigations just for Masters.To satisfy the nerf hearders make alladvanced schematics available only to Master. Take all the highest level attacks and defences on all combat proff. and make them only available to masters of the proff.


I have been Mas. CM for about a month and I was Rifleman when I started the game. The shame is that i don't enjoy PvP that much and if it gets nerfed than I lose because I do PvE. Its the gung ho PvPers that are directing the way the game goes and they are in the extreme minority.


Finally, any poison or diease that I sell will be crafted at the highest level that I can make it just to knock out the "template" yahoos.


I think it iswrong for the minority tohave the game constructed to what suits them best.






The higher damage poisons like this are made using Spider Venom (loot off of the Fire Breathing Spider).



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HazuyaMune
Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:32 pm
#3

So that means a bunch of CM's are going into the caves to kill the spiders and loot them? I know the other classes wouldnet help them because we are so overpowered. I knowI havent seen the venom offered for sale at least not on my server or if it was I'm sure it would be very pricey.


So then this whole nerf talk is about something that is somewhat rare or can be found at the right price just like I see on the auctions where lances and rifles that do poison damage can be bought. I have been once to the caves by myself and it was not a "solo" deal so that means we are either being helped or supplied by others.


So that also means that any of the nerfer's that come across any venom will destroy it of course? That would be the right thing to do wouldent it?


So, anyhow where is the supposedly commonly found 800 tick poiosn at? Where droves of players are falling at the hands of the merciless CM's.


Reply, anyone?





HAZUYA MUNE
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vortexala
Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:46 pm
#4






HazuyaMune wrote:

So, anyhow where is the supposedly commonly found 800 tick poiosn at? Where droves of players are falling at the hands of the merciless CM's.


Reply, anyone?








Haven't got a clue where they are. Have simply been using that number as a high-end example since it's the number that gets thrown at us all the time.



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Menoetius
Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:48 pm
#5

With the resources that are/where available on Lok I have managed with alt to create AoE base 234 (468 tick) and Single base 313 (626 tick) poisons.



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Anti-Thug
Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:16 pm
#6

spider venom has been nerfed and no one I know of has looted one higher than 147 power....on the first day only the genosian caves opened up there were 500 power poisons that were making the huge ticks...that was nerfed by day 2. Fire breathing spider spawns once an hour and don't always have loot.



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Gidro
Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:24 pm
#7

The best I use is a 330 effectiveness poison that ticks for about 604. That's without spider venom... I really don't see anything wrong with that since a player can spam their best attack and hit for 500+ every 4-6 sec depending on the speed of the weapon and their level of mastery. You can then argue that a CM with an additional weapon skill can own, but you need to remember that there is a delay from when you throw the med to when it sticks then you recover. So in reality we are losing a turn when we poison. The only thing I can see to nerf is the fact that I can throw a poison 75m without any tape skill enhancements....



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Ciirybeccaskyr
Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:02 pm
#8

the ones i am selling now on wanderhome are 336 so that is 672 tics and the best i know of without loot is 344s so still not even 700. However it wouldnt take a high power spider drop to hit 800



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Pahdbacca
Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:44 pm
#9

800 damage per tic is the theoretical highest based on
this old post
made months back. Based on the fact that everybody was hovering around a 750 damage per tick single (not AoE) poison, that resources with 1000 for all stats would give you an 800 tick poison. My personal bes is a tad shy of 690 per tick for a single poison C pack.


These were all made without any loot drops.


The 800 was a theoretical cap...the highest non-loot effectiveness poison I have seen was 360 something, coming to 720-730 per tick.



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HazuyaMune
Tue Mar 23, 2004 5:39 am
#10

So here is my point. Where are all the nerfer's on this particular thread? Because the whole argument is pointless without extreme examples. That is why you will CM should not be nerfed. 800 tick poisons are "NOT" common. Even the 600 tick stuff takes really good resources thatspawnrarely.


People cry CM's can't be stopped because I have to have a Doctor with me. Can you use stim's? Pick up some Doctor in your skill tree. Mind damage? BF has been in the game since I started and I have to go to the cantina to fix it, unless I want to pick up some Entertainer.


FACE IT NERF HEARDERS, THE ONLY REASON YOU WANT CM NERFED IS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN YOUR COMBAT TEMPLATE AND NOT HAVE TO PICK UP OTHER SKILLSLIKE MOST OF US DO.





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Ranelaen
Tue Mar 23, 2004 9:15 am
#11

Lol now all the cms know how the commandos feel. They used the armour bug and krayt flame throwers which are like 700k or more a piece to say we were overpowered and nerfed us into the ground. The sad thing is guys, no matter how much you post saying "such such change will be bad", they will do it anyways cause of the nerf herders. I dont want to see a nerf on cms. I want to see a commando revamp, so that when he throws a poison at me,I bust out my new shuny assault rifle and blast the hell out of him. Sure he will die, but i will be in alot of mind pain. Anyways good luck guys.

Ranlean

Master Commando - Colonel in the Imperial Forces
Rchuno
Tue Mar 23, 2004 10:01 am
#12






Ranelaen wrote:

Lol now all the cms know how the commandos feel. They used the armour bug and krayt flame throwers which are like 700k or more a piece to say we were overpowered and nerfed us into the ground. The sad thing is guys, no matter how much you post saying "such such change will be bad", they will do it anyways cause of the nerf herders. I dont want to see a nerf on cms. I want to see a commando revamp, so that when he throws a poison at me,I bust out my new shuny assault rifle and blast the hell out of him. Sure he will die, but i will be in alot of mind pain. Anyways good luck guys.

Ranlean

Master Commando - Colonel in the Imperial Forces







Right on. I agree. Make the other profs. more powerfull don't just say that everyone should be reduced to the same level. Or maybe we should just take out everything but CDEF weapons. Yeah thats the ticket. And only the nov. marksman specials. Now everyone is even and the game will be a lot more fun.


/endsarcasm




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Ahernia
Tue Mar 23, 2004 10:22 am
#13

As a swordsman, I don't want you to be nerfed, the same as I didn't want my bleeds nerfed. And I'm sure you guys didn't want my bleeds nerfed either. But now that they are nerfed, us swordsman are wondering why you can still'bleed' things like krayts/kimo's/FS's with 80% resists for 3000 damage a tick (based on a 500 damage tick mind poision stacked 6 times, which I -think- is a fair estimate of your damage output). From our point of view it's a case of why us, and why not them.


That's from a PvE perspective as well - ("The shame is that i don't enjoy PvP that much and if it gets nerfed than I lose because I do PvE. Its the gung ho PvPers that are directing the way the game goes and they are in the extreme minority.")


I just feel it's unfair nerfing us and leaving you. I know it's selfish and whatnot, but it's hardly fair either.



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