Combat Medic Archive

Thread: An offer to JFANG or Vortexala

Morath360
Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:35 am
#1


I know you guys have been ignoring all my posts and thats cool. However, I'm not going away.I have a proposal for you. It seems you guys put the time into testing this profession. That is a good thing and you deserve commendation for that. I wonder though if it has been a long time since you have played with a serious combat PVP profession template that does not include CM.


Having said that, I am willing to lend you my character for testing on Bria. Here are the stats he will have for you to test. Master Rifle/Master TKA, Pistoleer 0-0-4-2, Medic 2-0-0-0. He shoots the rifle at the speed cap and I have a 700 damage T21. I can help you with the macro setup that I currently use. He has full composite armor with about 37% stun resists. He is not quite as strong as the Rifle/Fencer setup but nontheless has a boat load of defences and meditate and medical.


I am doing this for 2 reasons. First, I trust your reputations. I have invested a lot of time into this character and I do not believe you will hurt him. Second, I would really like you guys to have a look at the other side. Maybe, like has been said, if an objective look at this with objective tests would be done, we all could enjoy pvp and pve more.


Anyway, the ball is in your court...

Message Edited by Morath360 on 07-12-2004 09:36 AM



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Kahless {WRATH} Light Jedi Knight
TsunamiKata
Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:30 am
#2






Morath360 wrote:


I know you guys have been ignoring all my posts and thats cool. However, I'm not going away.I have a proposal for you. It seems you guys put the time into testing this profession. That is a good thing and you deserve commendation for that. I wonder though if it has been a long time since you have played with a serious combat PVP profession template that does not include CM.


Having said that, I am willing to lend you my character for testing on Bria. Here are the stats he will have for you to test. Master Rifle/Master TKA, Pistoleer 0-0-4-2, Medic 2-0-0-0. He shoots the rifle at the speed cap and I have a 700 damage T21. I can help you with the macro setup that I currently use. He has full composite armor with about 37% stun resists. He is not quite as strong as the Rifle/Fencer setup but nontheless has a boat load of defences and meditate and medical.




Here is my recommendation to you. Try Master Rifleman, 4/4/4/0 Doctor and Novice Brawler. You'll be a lot happier.


Here is one of my often used comment.


"If you're not a doctor, then you're a liability"








TsunamiKata Hunter
The Dark Messiah
I'm the new evil, F3aR m3!
Utuppie
Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:41 am
#3






TsunamiKata wrote:



"If you're not a doctor, then you're a liability"







Tsu, be queit... with the upcoming combat medic fixes, people wont need Doctor !


Everybody, drop doc!





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Morath360
Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:59 am
#4

You only prove the nerf cryers argument with this... Thx..



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"In space all warriors are cold warriors.."


Morath {WRATH} MBH MD
Kahless {WRATH} Light Jedi Knight
TsunamiKata
Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:06 am
#5






Morath360 wrote:

You only prove the nerf cryers argument with this... Thx..




No, acutally the nerf cryers are those who doesn't have Doctor in their template, which in this case is YOU. Thus, you were being ignored by them. However, I'm more compassionate and thus want to shed you some inner light and bring you to a higher plane.



GET DOCTOR!!!





TsunamiKata Hunter
The Dark Messiah
I'm the new evil, F3aR m3!
einm
Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:26 am
#6






TsunamiKata wrote:





Morath360 wrote:

You only prove the nerf cryers argument with this... Thx..




No, acutally the nerf cryers are those who doesn't have Doctor in their template, which in this case is YOU. Thus, you were being ignored by them. However, I'm more compassionate and thus want to shed you some inner light and bring you to a higher plane.



GET DOCTOR!!!








So... we should all be forced to stick to one class, just to compete in pvp? You are a retard. This is coming from a doc/cm by the way.
vortexala
Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:33 am
#7

Appreciate the offer Morath, but don't think it would be appropriate.

And what exactly is it you'd like tested? We could always simply create a character on your server and tag-along, which would be easier in the long run.



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Morath360
Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:58 am
#8






vortexala wrote:
Appreciate the offer Morath, but don't think it would be appropriate.

And what exactly is it you'd like tested? We could always simply create a character on your server and tag-along, which would be easier in the long run.






Maybe I'm not understanding what you mean. Honestly, I have not messed with the TC. What is a tag-along character? The point I was attempting to make was if you formed up with a group and had all the meditate and novice medic skills and all the so called elite combat stacking skills with skill tapes and also a very powerful rifle that shoots at the speed cap and what not and you went out with any group of your choosing and could see for yourself the prep involved and if you looked at my inventory and saw all the diligence I have put into this character and then you went out and saw for yourself what it is like to be on the receiving end, I wonder if this would cause you to look harder or at least give you better insight into this profession.


Personally, I know the resources stink for CM. I know PVE stinks for CM. I am aware of that. But what do we do when all the skill points for 3 characters have been used up?Other than get a life...hehe..The only real thing left is PVP. I personally want this profession to be respected and an intigral part of the game.. So much so I am willing to put skin in the game if you will by allowing you a complete stranger an opportunity to try it from the so called elite defense stacking overpowering riflemen perspective.


Maybe you will come back and say there is no problem, but I'm betting, if you are objective, that you will see the imbalance and maybe we can get the devs to fix both problems. One by giving you help in the areas you need it for and 2 in pvp where I like to play.


That was the purpose...


Message Edited by Morath360 on 07-12-2004 12:11 PM



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"In space all warriors are cold warriors.."


Morath {WRATH} MBH MD
Kahless {WRATH} Light Jedi Knight
Morath360
Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:09 pm
#9


Edit... plasted laggy forums..

Message Edited by Morath360 on 07-12-2004 01:12 PM



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"In space all warriors are cold warriors.."


Morath {WRATH} MBH MD
Kahless {WRATH} Light Jedi Knight
Morath360
Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:10 pm
#10



LOL, you bring a rifle doc at me and my weak little template above and we will see how long you last.. hehe.. and I am just an average pvper...


The only thing that makes you uber is the weaps. I wouldnt even need it against you. Are you forgetting about a little thing called defenses? If you use 15 for intimidate that effectively leaves you with squat for KD and posture change. Plus your ranged defenseis what lets see if you take ranged support tree that gives you a whooping...78ranged defense.. Hmmm.. yup. So I pretty much have a boat load of defenses so you will miss more than me. If you get close to me you will get kd dizzied which leaves you pretty much in a world or hurt..


Yup.. hehe.. I welcome you..

Message Edited by Morath360 on 07-12-2004 01:26 PM



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"In space all warriors are cold warriors.."


Morath {WRATH} MBH MD
Kahless {WRATH} Light Jedi Knight
Happymob
Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:16 pm
#11






einm wrote:


Maybe I didnt make myself clear, YES I agree that doctor is a necessity for pvp, but is that the way it should be? No. There should not be one profession that decimates every other, with the exception of doc templates.




I'm assuming that you meant jedi and not doc. as the template of mass decimation (that has a nice ring to it).


Anyway, I agree with you that everyone should not have to be a doc to PvP effectively. I would like to see something more along the lines of 1 doctor for every 4 people in a PvP. In a group of 20, that's 5 people with at least some doctor. Since everyone can basically be 2 professions at once, this shouldn't be too high of a requirement.


Right now, a group basically requires 1 doctor for every 1 to 2 people. The good news is I think with this upcoming change we will be much closer to requiring a 1 to 4 ratio. Keep in mind that havla will still work for doctor cures. If we can get the timer reset bug fixed, 1 doctor should be able to keep 4 people (including themself) poison and disease free (or at least reduce the ticks to a manageable level) in a disciplined group (one that knows who their doctorsare and where people don't run all over the place when poisoned, making the doctors chase).


If don't think people fully appreciate what havla will do for doctor curing. People are saying that we are simply back to where we started pre-havla, but really, doctors shape be much more effective after this fix (well, once the timer reset bug is fixed as well...)





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TsunamiKata
Mon Jul 12, 2004 1:19 pm
#12






Morath360 wrote:


LOL, you bring a rifle doc at me and my weak little template above and we will see how long you last.. hehe.. and I am just an average pvper...



/yawn.


Talk is cheap. We know the above scenario would never happen because you'll never leave your server nor am I going to leave mine.


Go ahead and promote your 75% damage reduction. The result would be Rifleman / X clone template that will give you something else to cry about on the Rifleman forum.







TsunamiKata Hunter
The Dark Messiah
I'm the new evil, F3aR m3!
Reaperss
Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:21 pm
#13

Well would it be safe to say that we shouldn't have to stack defenses to PVP? That we should be able to go all ranged and still win? Or that we shouldn't have to spend points on novice medic to heal ourselves in PVP, or that we shouldn't.........


CM is not the problem. CM just appens to be theproblem for those with uber templates,uber armor and uber weapons.Like someone else said, adapt or die.



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