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Thread: So, we think of the idea but yet the Doctors get it?

DedMnWlking
Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:23 pm
#1

Publish 7:

Doctor’s can now craft Fire Blankets. Fire Blankets will give Doctors the ability to extinguish flame with a /extinguishflame command that will enable the use of the fire blanket. To balance out the Fire Blanket, using the blanket drains the “mind” of the doctor.


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What happen to our water bombs?


And again this is something that is happening out in the field...you know where Combat Medics are SUPPOSE to be better?
Rchuno
Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:29 pm
#2

I realy don't mind the Docs getting this one instead of the CMs. Docs at the moment are more buff bots than anything else in combat. It will get them more involved. Anyway people on fire should run back to the campt that the doc is in and get the fire removed. and their health healed.





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Xytroncore
Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:33 pm
#3






Rchuno wrote:

I realy don't mind the Docs getting this one instead of the CMs. Docs at the moment are more buff bots than anything else in combat. It will get them more involved. Anyway people on fire should run back to the campt that the doc is in and get the fire removed. and their health healed.








Rez's, cures, powerful stims, state cures...they are FAR more then buff bots... I'm temped to just say we are suicide bombers atm, we have no real healing use if there are any dedicated docs around.



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RhenGordon
Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:51 pm
#4

Honestly, I don't have a problem with doctor's getting it, after all they gave us mind heal.


OK well I know what you are going to say, and that is that mind heal is not that great of a benefit, and I would agree with you, however I think if you went to ask the doctor's if they thought they should have it to, you would find a majority that would like to have the skill as well.


Guys there has to bea use for all professions. We all harp on balance and counter balance. If the doctor is to be the ones that get this, then fine let them have this one.





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Solidlunatic
Fri Feb 20, 2004 4:18 pm
#5

I'm sorry but I tend to disagree with the mind heal. I keep groups alive for long periods of time with mind heal. Specially if I'm buffed. With the new Chef changes, all it takes is proper planning and timing and I can make a big difference in PVP or PVE. However, I do think that we should get water bombs! Just my 2 cents.


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snaglegromp
Fri Feb 20, 2004 4:35 pm
#6

Read this and felt sorry for the commando's. Hope they get some of their other weapons fixed soon.






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Happymob
Sat Feb 21, 2004 12:08 am
#7

It belongs with doc. They have all the other state cures, so they should have this one as well. I would agree with those that say doc is already better than CM (particular when you consider the 29 skill point difference). However, I think it is important that we maintain theline of separationbetween the professions (range, area, offense vs. state cures, wound heals, buffs, revive).



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Khragon
Sat Feb 21, 2004 1:06 am
#8

Doctor is superior to CM's, always have been. Even an AOE oison doesnt compare to buffs and rezzes seeing as how not 1 person will incap from it.
vortexala
Sat Feb 21, 2004 1:54 am
#9

I will see if we can get any of the alternative options for CMs implemented as well, or at the least get this moved to Master Medic so we can have a bit of the love too.



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Gnuut
Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:11 am
#10





Happymob wrote:
It belongs with doc. They have all the other state cures, so they should have this one as well. I would agree with those that say doc is already better than CM (particular when you consider the 29 skill point difference). However, I think it is important that we maintain theline of separationbetween the professions (range, area, offense vs. state cures, wound heals, buffs, revive).





My main problem is the following. There are a total of 13 types of "combat damage". By combat damage I refer to damage, states, effects incurred IN COMBAT. Doctors can heal 12 of these while CMs can only heal 5. Yet we are supposed to be the better combat healers? Absolutely ridiculous.Doctors are overall the better "combat healers".


Doctor - Health Damage, Action Damage, Intimdated, Stunned, Dizzy, Blind, Bleeds, Poison, Disease, Wounds, Death, and now Fire


CM - Health Damage, Action Damage, Mind Damage, Bleeds, and Wounds




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DedMnWlking
Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:19 am
#11






Happymob wrote:
It belongs with doc. They have all the other state cures, so they should have this one as well. I would agree with those that say doc is already better than CM (particular when you consider the 29 skill point difference). However, I think it is important that we maintain theline of separationbetween the professions (range, area, offense vs. state cures, wound heals, buffs, revive).





Then why do I have to be within 2-3m of someone to apply a Mind Heal?
DedMnWlking
Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:35 am
#12






Xytroncore wrote:





Rchuno wrote:

I realy don't mind the Docs getting this one instead of the CMs. Docs at the moment are more buff bots than anything else in combat. It will get them more involved. Anyway people on fire should run back to the campt that the doc is in and get the fire removed. and their health healed.








Rez's, cures, powerful stims, state cures...they are FAR more then buff bots... I'm temped to just say we are suicide bombers atm, we have no real healing use if there are any dedicated docs around.






Amen to that. We have been Suicide bombers for a looooooooooooooong time. It was one of the major reasons that my Master Combat Medic is no longer my main character. I did not want to leave the profession so I started a different server. I went back and played him when I found out that we could craft with a range over 64m but then again they nerfed that too.


And ooo big deal we get Poisons, The people bragging about this have NO CLUE what the new Chef foods can do. I have a friend that is a Master Chef. Breath of Heaven, BE enhanced is over 1k to Str, Quick, Focus. So whoever is posioned CAN STILL span specials without worry. ALSO, there is another drink that can boost CON to the point where my strongest Health posion with a effect of 250 does nothing to him. It will tick for -250 then before the next tick he is back at full. And this is even after him squeezing off a few rounds of specials.


A CM needs to be built for PvP. We HAVE to be. Mostly because with the changes to PvE well we suck now. A CM has always been about PvP imo. And before we only had to worry about Spices and Doctor buffs. Now we have to worry about Foods as well. I saw a TKA walking around with 6k Health last night. Doctor buff, spice, Chef Food, Power Boost. I don't think it should take a group of people to take out 1 TKA, Especialy because he admitted he was only 2/0/0/0 TKA.


The biggest complaint is not that a Doctor is better then a Combat Medic. It the fact that I had to spend 29 EXTRA skill points to say that.

DedMnWlking
Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:41 am
#13






Rchuno wrote:

I realy don't mind the Docs getting this one instead of the CMs. Docs at the moment are more buff bots than anything else in combat. It will get them more involved. Anyway people on fire should run back to the campt that the doc is in and get the fire removed. and their health healed.






I wasn't going to answer this one because someone else already commented on the Docs being MUCH more then Buff Bots. But there was something else you said that made me fall off my chair laughing at you.





Rchuno wrote:

I realy don't mind the Docs getting this one instead of the CMs. Docs at the moment are more buff bots than anything else in combat. It will get them more involved. Anyway people on fire should run back to the campt that the doc is in and get the fire removed. and their health healed.







/emote grabs a gas can and a pack of matches


/emote splashed Rchuno with gas and flicks a match at him


/emote watches Rchuno burn


Hey Rchuno, Go run to the Hospital and have then put that fire out and take care of your wounds. Don't STOP, DROP, and ROLL. No, that would make sense. Go Run to the Hospital.


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