Cities And Housing Archive
Thread: The Death nail to player cities is on the test center
SakeO wrote:
How about instead of destroying condemned structures, mayors could relocate them? A mayor could just drag the house to somewhere in the city and pay an amount based on the distance moved. I'd suggest something on par with a 1000cr per meter to reduce the willingness of cities to drastically relocate houses without any consent. This would allow for the civic planning needs while still preserving the storage for the player.
You might even be able to do this with other structures with a sucessful referendum and the fee going to the owner to better deal with griefing structures and citizens holding out and disrupting the city's progress.
SakeO
SakeO wrote:
How about instead of destroying condemned structures, mayors could relocate them? A mayor could just drag the house to somewhere in the city and pay an amount based on the distance moved. I'd suggest something on par with a 1000cr per meter to reduce the willingness of cities to drastically relocate houses without any consent. This would allow for the civic planning needs while still preserving the storage for the player.
You might even be able to do this with other structures with a sucessful referendum and the fee going to the owner to better deal with griefing structures and citizens holding out and disrupting the city's progress.
SakeO
From what I have read, that can't be done either. It has something to do with the location, the items in the house and where they are tied to. Also, that could be a grief as well. A Mayor could move a house to the other side of a city and the player has no idea what happened to the house.
Cybst0rm wrote:
From what I have read, that can't be done either. It has something to do with the location, the items in the house and where they are tied to. Also, that could be a grief as well. A Mayor could move a house to the other side of a city and the player has no idea what happened to the house.
I think you are correct that individual items are located in their own seperate cooridnates in space and not in relation to the structure they are "in". As long as all the items tagged as taking up space in the house were moved the same directions as the house in respect to x,y,z and rotation, it should work out.
There might be smalldiscrepancies but, most players either won't care or have the skill to adjust the decor back in order. The exception would be the guy who paid a decorator to furnish his house. Either way we are talking about a house that was abandoned to some extent and it is still far preferrable to having it all go "poof!".
Thinking about it over night, I see where the referendum idea could become a griefing tool very easily. My assumption would be that the structure owner would get an email notification as to where it is. Besides, with the cost I suggested, it would cost like half a million to relocate a house to the other side of town. Doable but, not done lightly.
If the coding for this function was added, it could even be made a desirable service, as it could be much easier than transporting the entire contents of one house to another and the extra lots, it can require.
SakeO
Message Edited by SakeO on 01-27-2005 10:03 AM
SakeO wrote:
How about instead of destroying condemned structures, mayors could relocate them? A mayor could just drag the house to somewhere in the city and pay an amount based on the distance moved. I'd suggest something on par with a 1000cr per meter to reduce the willingness of cities to drastically relocate houses without any consent. This would allow for the civic planning needs while still preserving the storage for the player.
You might even be able to do this with other structures with a sucessful referendum and the fee going to the owner to better deal with griefing structures and citizens holding out and disrupting the city's progress.
SakeO
Great idea. I wish we could do that. There are a few code issues with doing that but it would be nice. I'd be happy with just being able to redeed and drop a house in another location.
No matter how well you think you know one of your residents there is always an unseen factor that can not be predicted. Not all of us have the luxury of living next door to fellow gamers or being IRL friends with them. And since that is a fact with many towns, it seems that a mayor should have more control over housing.
SakeO wrote:
Cybst0rm wrote:
From what I have read, that can't be done either. It has something to do with the location, the items in the house and where they are tied to. Also, that could be a grief as well. A Mayor could move a house to the other side of a city and the player has no idea what happened to the house.
I think you are correct that individual items are located in their own seperate cooridnates in space and not in relation to the structure they are "in". As long as all the items tagged as taking up space in the house were moved the same directions as the house in respect to x,y,z and rotation, it should work out.
There might be smalldiscrepancies but, most players either won't care or have the skill to adjust the decor back in order. The exception would be the guy who paid a decorator to furnish his house. Either way we are talking about a house that was abandoned to some extent and it is still far preferrable to having it all go "poof!".
Thinking about it over night, I see where the referendum idea could become a griefing tool very easily. My assumption would be that the structure owner would get an email notification as to where it is. Besides, with the cost I suggested, it would cost like half a million to relocate a house to the other side of town. Doable but, not done lightly.
If the coding for this function was added, it could even be made a desirable service, as it could be much easier than transporting the entire contents of one house to another and the extra lots, it can require.
SakeO
Message Edited by SakeO on 01-27-2005 10:03 AM
with all the broken taxes, it could also be an income generator for the city if someone wanted to move but not redo the house.. pay the mayor x amount and have him move it.
Message Edited by DragonSnack on 01-29-2005 12:42 PM
DragonSnack wrote:
If I read the original post correctly then
Once a structure reaches 0 hitpoints, it will flag itself as condemned instead of deleting itself. Condemned houses are not enterable,
and
To uncondemn a house, simply enter it with enough money in the bank to pay the repair cost
How do you enter an un-enterable house?
This needs to be reworded to say deposit enough money in the bank to cover the maint costs.
The process should be cahnged so that oncde a properity starts to decay then the mayor (if the structure is outside a city only the owner gets notified)should be granted admin rights to the structure. Themayor should have allrights including destroying the structure.
Expand this to allow the mayoradmin rights for any structure that the owner has not logged in for2 weeks.
Good idea. I don't think people will go for the destroy option but mayors should at least have a redeed option.