Cities And Housing Archive

Thread: Condemned Structure

Dezelle
Thu May 05, 2005 4:58 pm
#27

Last summer SOE announced that they were going to do their first ever character purge in October of 2004, and then they would purge every 6 months after that. This was announced on the main SWG site. HOWEVER, they did NOT purge, and nothing has been publicly announced since then. This is where people are coming up with this 6 month deal...


I feel that it was just a scare tactic to get people who had left the game to reactivate their accounts, whether it worked or not, who knows. To date, no character purges have been done, and I'm sure they will officially announce it if they plan one, so they can again try to get more people to reactivate.


Condemned structures will sit on the server FOREVER, or until SOE decides to actually follow through with a character purge, or come up with another solution, such as going back to the way it was before, run out of maint, structure goes into decay, once it reachs zero, POOF! It was a good system, why they changed it is beyond me. Mind you, character purges won't help if these miners and such are a lot trade deal and the person is still actively playing on another server, and the person who was maintaining them left. The only solution for that is having them poof when maint runs out.


Condemned structures is just a bad bad idea altogether!




romuski
Fri May 06, 2005 2:07 am
#28

If a structure is condemned and not reclaimed for a few weeks, it should get removed by The Empire and all items should be shoved either into the player safety deposit or an Imperial Storehouse.



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GTomlinson
Tue May 10, 2005 2:25 pm
#29






SithLordKobayashi wrote:
It has also been said OVER & OVER again that they are waiting on the CU and the release of ROTW. As those two items (mainly the CU) are in SOE eye's items that will bring people back to the game. So we all will have to wait a couple of months AFTER the CU for server clean ups to happen until then there is no reason to keep hitting this horse, the noodle is limp enough. Sorry just my 1cent the other 9cents will be waiting till after the CU





There will always be something on the horizon that marketing has the devs working on. We've heard "after JTL", "after JTL patch-fix", "after CU", "after ROTW". I'm sure the next one will be "after ROTW patch-fix" and during that wait they will announce the smuggler revamp or the next expansion and it'll be pushed to "after" that.


Personally, I perceive condemned structures in a player city as causing the mayor of that city grief, though I admit that the grief is in most cases unintentional. I think a mayor should be able to tag any condemned structure with a 3-week eviction notice. After the 3 weeks, if the structure is still condemned,it should be destroyed. It takes quite a bit of neglect for a structure to go condemned. It takes even more neglect for it to stay condemned for 3 solid weeks. If they haven't done anything with it in that time, give it up, man...they're not coming back.





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Roemek
Tue May 10, 2005 3:28 pm
#30



I lost all my property once (and everything inside them)for both my characters/accounts due to negligence and being away from the game for a while (b4 they implemented this "condemned" system). Large house, several small houses, heavy harvesters, factories, etc.were lost. But you know what. Tough luck, I should have been a paying customer then (or paid enuff maintenece fees), at the time I wasn't. And was just happy my character still existed when I did return and I had everything elseon self and in bank at least.


Even after that I beleive the current system is retarded and needs to meet a middle ground. Property cannot just build up in game, it has NO purpose and more than half (being generous) of those people will NEVER return to this game. I think there needs to be time b4 buildings go away, sure. But lets go as far to say there needs to EVENTUALLY be a time when stuff does go away.


My proposal is as such and these methods do not matter whether it is a paying or cancelled player subscription.


1) All property stays as long as Maint. Fee is paid. ... Many reasons for this, but all logical. Maybe the player knows they will return but don't know when. Maybe another player is "babysitting"the structure for a friend or borrowing lots, Either wya the structure is being maintained and in use.Structures with $ can also be taxed by city if they fall in one. This method also removes $ from game, etc. All valid points for things to stay as long as they are paid. Sure this would make some Mayors mad but thats tough luck, a maintained structure has as much right to be placed somewhere as any maintained structure you own.


2) Next step, Limit condemned time, Once a structure is no longer maintained ... Perhaps it was oversight of the owner, perhaps something came up and player had to be away from the game for a while. Whatever the case may be, Condemned structures must have limitations. This are is kinda in teh grey as many options are available. But the most important issue that must be addressed is the fact that condemned structures MUST NOT be allowed to remain on the surface of our planets.Possible sollutions to this are as follows, at this point if ANY of these were implemented I beleive it would be for the better.

2-1) Destroy a structure and all contentsafter 1 month of being condemned.

2-2) Place a structure and all contents into Galactic bank of player who owns it after 2 weeks of being condemned.

2-3) Create an Imperial "reclamation" Department that"repo's" Condemned property after 1 week and places into an Imperial safe box that requires a "fee" to reclaim lost property and belongings.


This is fairly simple methods to implement and would make the SWG worlds a much better place for all parties involved.

Message Edited by Roemek on 05-10-2005 03:33 PM

Message Edited by Roemek on 05-10-2005 03:37 PM



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Rhadida
Wed May 11, 2005 6:24 am
#31

The best way would be that the house goes POOF after it's maintenance goes to 0 and the condition goes to 0 as well. It can be annoying that your house vanishes, but you should put enough cash in the house in order to sustain it.


I have houses from friends that have quitted for a few months, if SOE ever do a purge will these houses still exist?? I mean I am on admin and I pay the maint and I use them everyday. So noneed for them to be deleted





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brokguitar11
Thu May 12, 2005 4:03 am
#32

Unfortunatly this is what they call TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SYSTEM. I know some people might not like the fact i disagree but, they need to go. Sorry, best wishes, but gone. Put the deeds in the account players inventory if they wish to come back, everything building wise that player owns should be off the planet into inventory. I shouldnt be able to use a UNACTIVATED players house for anything, there are plenty of players that would let me do that who still play. It is only fair to the everyone. If I leave take my houses and harvs, put them in a bank or my inventory and let someoneelse use the spot.
darkrelease
Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:20 pm
#33

Once a house has been deemed condemned how does one uncondemn it? I mean you can't enter the structure to get to the access terminal so how do you get around this?





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Vaylon_SWG
Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:54 pm
#34

owner can
Khristen
Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:55 pm
#35


The owner of the structure will have the option of paying the fines and uncondemning the structure. Only the owner can do this. They get the option when they attempt to enter or use the structure.







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