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I just recently was trained as a novice chef.

Now, previously I was making fantastic Ruby Bliels, Starshine Surprise, Jawa Beer, and Teltiel Noodles. Selling a lot of the stuff.

The problem is: Noweverything I make from the Novice Chef tree is inferior to what I could make before. I realize I need to increase my experience to get better experimentation abilities, but I don'r like to play that way.

What I mean is:

1) I like to sell quality, and I enjoy selling at the cantinas. It is a matter of personal pride that I only sell quality.

Continued:

2) I do not want to just grind out crap to be destroyed, nor do I want to grind out crap to sell

3) However, I will not get better unless I grind out crap. But grinding with the only intent to gain xp is entirely NOT how I want to play.

If anyone can make a suggestion, I'd appreciate it, Otherwise I may have to give up the chef profession. And that would be sad.

My suggestion would be then , to switch professions, chef is one big grind plain and simple. I also have many of the same philosophies as you do, if I make something and it comes out like crap, I destroy it because selling it would be an embarassment. Just the way it is right now, it sux.

Wastril Bread is a grind, but if you do it in the cantina and hand it out to the performers, they eventually learn the benefits of food and become customers. That's what I did.

Now that I've gotten past Wastril Bread, all the entertainers are bummed that I am not handing out free bread, but they are now placing orders.

Here's what you do:

1. Mix yourself a really strong drink.

2. Repeat.

You sound like a good bartender, you have standards. That's noble. At the moment I tend to serve up whatever just died, but I'm working on it.

If you're a good bartender than maybe your customers know you. Maybe people seek you out for some of your "trademark" dishes.

3. Grind out the Novice Chef junk.Grind it with the worst ingredients, make it out of copper and solar power.

4. The next time some guy comes up to you and asks for your World Famous Brew, ask him if he'd like to try something new you're working on. Put the stuff into circulation with your premium menu. Offer combination specials.

Just as in real cooking, sometimes you try a dish that just won't come out right. If you maintain your standards and your pride then your product reflects it, even if they're still coming back for noodles.

-Pogo (can't stop lol cause this is all for CHEF job, but meh)

Other than using the worst ingrediaents, I like your idea Pogo.

I can make a semi decent Meatlump with enough tries. (Trying to make a good product and destroying failures is not "grinding" to me, because I am not simply trying to gain xp, I am trying to make a good product) Anyway, I can offer a decent Meatlump with my other stuff I have been making, and maybe up the price a few credits.

Say something like "For only 25 more credits I can throw in a Meatlump, A new hearty treat!"

ok, maybe I have to work on my sales pitch, but you get the idea.

While I'm at it, Soypro has the optional "biological component". What is that?

I try to experiment as much as possible, but being a novice chef and with only two points, I will fail a lot. Anything that fails, ends up in my crap pile backpack. These are then handed out to friends, groupmates, or reallyanyone as free samples. All the experimented items that pass and become better, I put up on the marketplace, or sell.

Biological Components are created by Bio-Engineers and will increase the bonus on consumed food, if the attributes match up. Meaning the attribute bonus has to be listed on the biological component and the food.

i.e.Meatlump grants a bonus to the Stamina pool, so you would want a biological component which gives a bonus to Stamina. You can use a component which grants bonuses to all stats, but only the stamina one will actually work for this food type.

Which professions AREN'T big grinds? Apparently nobody is happy until they've made it to the fourth tier of a skill, THEN they will start playing the game.

Even the combat professions are grinds. It doesn't matter if you're able to kill a Bantha without getting hurt - you need to do it a hundred times to get enough XP to get that next skill level...

And what if the profession wasn't a grind? Then we'd all be Master Chefs already and then what? Do we jump up and down shouting "I win, I win!!!" ? C'mon folks, let's enjoy the journey. It's a long one, I'll admit but if you can't have fun on the way, what is the point of the trip?

You dont get any bonus in meatlump, because the soypro itself doesn't give any increases, and it doesn't carry :/

I tried this with a BE yesterday. You'll need to get a food type that immediately uses the stat or the component goes to waste.

Enjoying the journey is exactly my point.

I right now am a Master Artisan, have many scout skills, Novice Merchant, and Pistol Specialist. Up to this point I have never done anything just to grind out xp to get to the end and say "I win!". In fact I never even check to see where my xp are on the tree. I played for 3 days without even training when I had achieved sufficient xp, because I didn't care. I was enjoying myself.

I have been doing what I enjoy consistently and when the "level" comes it is a bonus, and opens new doors.

My complaint is only that obtaining Novice chef didn't open any new doors at all. Except making crappy food.

I don't want to be a master chef right away. Heck I don't care when, if ever, I do.

I would continue making the things I was making before and enjoying myself, but doing so ensures that I will NEVER grow. Therefore the journey ends, and I have no journey to enjoy anymore, unless I choose a different path.

I want to enjoy the journey as a chef. And Pogo gave me the hope to do that.

I don't mind sitting in front of a crafting stationtrying to make that "perfect" Jawa Beer to sell to my customers. Labeling ones that don't meet my high standards as "Crap" or "Do not Sell". I feel this is part of enjoying the journey.

The problem comes that EVERYTHING I attempt to make as a Novice Chef does not meet my previously determined standards. Mainly because I cannot experiment enough on the different items. But, in order to get good enough to experiment on the items, I have to make the bad items over and over again, for no other reason then to get better at it. That is not fun. Do you see the difference?

But as I said before, If I can make "substandard" goods but good enough to sell along with my old goodies, then my crisis has been solved. I truly do not care about xp at all, when it comes it comes. Thank you Pogo for the suggestion.

Lason, I am EXACTLY like you, down to the very last word. I achieved Novice Chef without grinding one bit and without destroying or giving away any item I've made. I like to bartend, and I sell all my stuff. I've made all my profits legitimately without handicap missions, and it wasfun. It's how I like to play, just like you.

Today, I just got Novice Chef and I realized how brokenthis professionreally is. I havn't read the responses to your initial post yet, but I'm eagar to see them.

ok, Last night I worked hard on creating meatlumps. After many tries and failures to meet my standards I Finally made one batch of fine Meatlumps.

I then got a tell from a couple of entertainers in the Cantina wondering where I was, so I quickly made some of my perfected items and headed on over there.

I sold all my drinks as usual and had a good time, Plus I sold the one Meatlump I had made!

THIS WAS A TON OF FUN FOR ME! I will not give up on this profession. Sure I will burn many fine ingredients to make that perfect food, but you can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs.

And for the effort I can sell the select few items that meet my standards, and although I will be losing out now, it will pay off in the long run,and in time I will improve. PLus I can still sell my old drinks, and teltier noodles.

After last night I realized the chef profession is not necessarily broken. The more difficult recipes are just that, more difficult, and it may take a few tries to perfect. Experimentation is the key. Although I am only getiing 2 experimentation points, each with a 48% chance of failure, it is possible (albeit difficult)occasionally to get a good product.