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Thread: 30min Fill & Improved Drink usage

FlereImsaho
Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:55 pm
#1

Hi all,
I have put a run of brandy together +385, 50min, 49fill - this gives 20min potential for double stacking on 2nd pair of brandies, or opportunity to double brandy and macro 1 in every 30mins to stack and leave room for other def mod drinks (Ithorian mist etc) Since the reduction in fill has been brought down I was wondering if any others were neglecting the "effect" stat on foods for better fill/duration combo to allow combat profs better defences. It seems to me that continually bumping mind stats beyond useful application is not only wasteful but limiting combat opportunities. Canape is in similar position in that fill tends to last 11mins approx but most canape I see has been maxed out for effect with a duration of 9 min approx.
Seems to me that the recent fill timer change has opened up the Chef potential to provide a better variety of def mods but is still not required, but will be come the CU.
Anyone concur?



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I_Zombi
Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:19 pm
#2

Our 54%, 24min Pikatta Pie and +25 melee defense, 25 filling Vegeparsine fly off the shelves. As fast as Brandy/Ahrisa I'd say



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Higginsis
Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:44 pm
#3

Nice pikatta, must be some uber fruits.



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I_Zombi
Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:20 pm
#4

Thnx, requires 88 BSNs, perfect OQ water and 900+ OQ/PE on the wheat and fruit... well worth it, though. The stuff flies off the shelves at the 300-350k per crate we've been chargin.



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Wengel
Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:24 pm
#5






Higginsis wrote:
Nice pikatta, must be some uber fruits.





I managed to squeeze Pikatta tp 50% with 27:12 duration.... as close as i could get to the 30 minute timer with 50% dodge...



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ChefVomit
Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:03 am
#6

Canape : +732/33Fill/10minutes
Brandy : +407/49Fill/51Minutes



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FlereImsaho
Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:21 am
#7

I'm new to Chef. Have you noticed any shift in demand for other food n' drinks? (esp def mod drinks). I'm presuming post CU more practical F n' D combo's will supplement brandy consumption and current habits.



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FlereImsaho
Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:59 am
#8

Wasn't intending to start a stat contest on foods. I was looking for feedback on changes of consumption since the food fill was brought down to 30mins. Or new stacking potentials on drinks since. We all know the theoretical limits on foods and we all try n' get the resources to get there (or bio's etc). Im looking for input on possible food macro's for different battle situations, which I think will be all the more relevant come the CURB. Any insight welcome. Stat comparisons.....yawn.



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jadeew
Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:33 pm
#9






FlereImsaho wrote:
Wasn't intending to start a stat contest on foods. I was looking for feedback on changes of consumption since the food fill was brought down to 30mins. Or new stacking potentials on drinks since. We all know the theoretical limits on foods and we all try n' get the resources to get there (or bio's etc). Im looking for input on possible food macro's for different battle situations, which I think will be all the more relevant come the CURB. Any insight welcome. Stat comparisons.....yawn.





Pay attention because the stat comparisons is the information you seek. Just today I was discussing the new timers with some of my guild mates on ventrilo. I have not changed my brandy at all since the changes. It is 430/44m30s/49f*21 uses. They were raving about how they can now carry a 4 brandy buff for 15 minutes and at worse be what it has always been.


They say foods are flying off of the shelf. I say check out the stats of their foods and do likewise.

Message Edited by jadeew on 03-29-2005 11:34 AM



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I_Zombi
Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:36 pm
#10

The pikatta and vegeparsine I listed can be stacked for grinding. Say you're a fresh paddy with only novice LS... you can have a constant buff of 54% pikatta pie and +25 vege.


IMO the best way to take advantage of the 30min timer is to ignore duration on brandy and reduce the filling to allow for 2 hits of brandyplus ith mist or deutyrium pyro. Especially in pvp, every little bit of defense has the potential to help.



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Don_T_Shoot
Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:47 pm
#11


I_Zombi wrote:
IMO the best way to take advantage of the 30min timer is to ignore duration on brandy and reduce the filling to allow for 2 hits of brandy plus ith mist or deutyrium pyro.





I'm assuming here you mean reduce the filling by selecting all high PE, OQ, DR and not worrying about FL plus experiementing on fill instead of duration.

But would even all that lower the fill enough to allow any other drink at the same time as two brandies? I haven't done the math yet but my initial impression is that it won't work.

Thoughts?

Message Edited by Don_T_Shoot on 03-29-2005 02:49 PM








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Don_T_Shoot
Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:13 pm
#12

I think that's what I was getting at, when experimenting on fill I quickly run into a point where more experimentation leads to only a one or two point drop in fill where duration tends to improve consistantly with experimentation.

This thread has got me more thinking about the stacking possibilities with "the new stomach" than I have before, though. Time to try some experiments.

Have I spent the points in the wrong place for my latest canape?

+781 Focus & Willpower/ 10 minutes/ 39 fill/ 6 use

That's with 11 points and some quality tissues.








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I_Zombi
Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:49 pm
#13






ChefVomit wrote:






I_Zombi wrote:

The pikatta and vegeparsine I listed can be stacked for grinding. Say you're a fresh paddy with only novice LS... you can have a constant buff of 54% pikatta pie and +25 vege.


IMO the best way to take advantage of the 30min timer is to ignore duration on brandy and reduce the filling to allow for 2 hits of brandyplus ith mist or deutyrium pyro. Especially in pvp, every little bit of defense has the potential to help.






Hmm.... I see what you mean, althoughI went another route. I found the best combination tends to be LONG duration brandy with Ithorian mist.


What I mean is that my long duration brandy is +409 / 51m / 49Fill / 21 use. You can pop two of those, and you will be good for almost an hour. In the meantime, you can take an Ithorian Mist less than 5 minutes after popping the two brandies. And after THAT....you can pop yet another Ithorian mist....and still have enough room to double tap two more brandies long before you need to. In fact you could almost perpetually stack three brandies and Ithorian Mist. The great thing about the new stomach is that long duration foods are amazingly popular now. You can stack multiple foods very easily since they digest so quickly. You can have perpetual buffing Canape over 700 power as well....since you can get the duration on Canape to 10m without too much trouble. 33 Fill / 10m duration Canape is constant buff.


I have become a HUGE fan of duration and low filling foods. I agree with you there entirely. So many new options for food combos now. You found one, I use another, but both work very well.







Definately... that's why I love special orders so much more than stocking vendors. IMO the low filling brandy/pyro combo is good for Jedi (hence my interest ) but a bounty hunter would probably find the high duration more useful since they know about Jedi/BH fights beforehand and can plan out their foods/drinks in advance. All depends on point of view i guess



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