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Thread: Selling Vasarian Brandy 500K per crate of 25!!!
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Herbsman
Mon Aug 23, 2004 9:24 pm
#1
No? Don't be so sure about that. This might just become a reality in the coming months. All my tissue suppliers have stopped making tissues because they can't get their hands on any quality meat. The doctors are cornering the market. Usually a bio engineer pays about 40 cpu for quality meat whereas doctors are paying as much as 150 cpu. I think we should try and voice our opinions in this matter and try and help out our fellow BE's.
Possible solution
- Cut the required meat ammount for tissues to 1/3rd - 1/4th current level for BE's.
- Multiply the required meat ammount for doctors by 3 or 4.
This would mean they still would sell their wares for similar ammounts as they do now, but they will both be able to compete in the meat market.
If you're conserned with the future of tissue pricing then speak out.
Kryxal
Mon Aug 23, 2004 9:42 pm
#2
That's a great deal. On Radiant, we've had some very good carnivore meat spawns, so BEs don't really have any worries ... I'm just finishing up a run of 1000 +115 INs with recent resources. The super-high OQ wood didn't hurt either...
Kryxal
Mon Aug 23, 2004 9:44 pm
#3
To clarify, that's a great deal, as in very high, plus I do my own hunting ... it may be different for BEs who don't, as with the mentioned prices, what ELSE would people hunt than the Doc requirements?
Battery
Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:15 pm
#4
Docs are even starting to complain about harvest prices. I don't think the solution is altering schematics I think altering missions would work better.
Jinta or janta ? what ever the dant missions are call are a joke. Players are making 200-500k / hr doing them. What insentive is thereto go harvest a creature for money when you make less doing it? even at 100 cpu unless you can pull 50 or 60 units it's not even worth it. If missions payed 10-15k each I think alot more people would pick up scout and there would be a whole lot more harvested organics on the market. The question is would crafters lower thier price aswell 
Herbsman
Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:19 pm
#5
I agree about the missions but when a doc can buy meat at 150cpu and still be making a good profet whilst a BE is buying it at 50 and screaming because it's too expensive then something has to be done. The docs will always corner the meat market when the value of meat in their products is much higher then the value of meat in BE products.
Nheego
Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:47 pm
#6
It stems from the ease of Janta missions, in my opinion.
To tear people away from the easy faucet of credits you barely work for to instead hunt and gather meat (which requires a modicum of thought) the Doctor's need to offer a comparable amount to what you could make doing Janta missions.
How are we supposed to compete with that?
I was recently berated for trying to sell a full run of +86 BSNs for 1.5M (37.5k a crate).
If I have to pay 50 cpu for meat (the going rate for the meat I"m using)and 10 cpu for flora(the going rate for the flora that is out of shift), that equates to 1.6M for the full run (1M+600k).
Luckily, I do my own hunting, so I can afford to sell them like this. But, why should I have to take such aloss were I needing to buy my meat?
Eerif
Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:14 pm
#7
and it's going to stink even more in the upcoming weeks with the increasing number of people going jedi, they will be focusing on leveling that, instead of getting meat. Might be harder for us there too 
Battery
Mon Aug 23, 2004 11:53 pm
#8
Herbsman wrote:
I agree about the missions but when a doc can buy meat at 150cpu and still be making a good profet whilst a BE is buying it at 50 and screaming because it's too expensive then something has to be done. The docs will always corner the meat market when the value of meat in their products is much higher then the value of meat in BE products.
Actualy most hunters I know hate harvesting for doc because even at 150 cpu they make less / hr then most 40-50 cpu contracts. Why ?? because avian creatues have small harvests most of the time. Getting 5-10 units/ harvest means a 50 cpu contract only needs to harvest 30 units to make the same/ creature. After that it becomes a question of missions to see what pays out faster.
Keep in mind that it's the crafting docs that take home most of the money, the buffer in towns don't make much more then the people doing the 29k missions. and it's a heck of alot more boring
Numen
Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:51 am
#9
I would never harvest avain even for 150cpu. Its just depression to end a buff session with 10k meat after doing missions over and over and over again.
Brandy will never reach 500k a crate. That would be like 200+ cpu for the meat easily. I can definatly see raising prices on BE foods. I know I'll be going up about 5-10k a crate shortly as 30-35cpu for meat just wasn't cutting it anymore. 45-55 seems to be getting at least a decent responce.
I do believe that it will be because of meat that I finally give up chef at somepoint.
I think a better solution is to increase harvest rates. 2-3 times the current amounts for scouts, 4-6 times for rangers. I just don't think the devs want all the players to be able to produce the highest quality they can all the time. Weaponsmiths can use harvestors and produce the same quality of items for months on end. Docs and Chefs are the exception to that rule as noone can harvest months worth of meat for themselves.
Herbsman
Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:14 pm
#10
I thought they changed the meat requirements for doc from avian to any meat at all. I've been seeing carni and insect meat being bought up by the hundreds of thousands of units at the price of 100-150 cpu.
MalkavSez69
Tue Aug 24, 2004 7:50 pm
#11
I've regretted giving up BE just to not have to find a BE. But I missed being able to actually have some combat ability. Now I'd hunt down all the meat and order a full run of tissues for near a mil. Since he was the cheapest around I'm scared of finding another...All I know is there's a good carny meat spawn on Dath and I'm going to milk those rancors for all their worth!
MozzerKing
Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:27 am
#12
Most hunters would rather hunt Dath Carnivore meat for 25cpu than Herbivore/Avian meat for 150cpu because it's so much easier to gather large amounts of carnivore. That's the key.
Message Edited by MozzerKing on 08-25-2004 05:27 AM
MalkavSez69
Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:33 am
#13
exactly. The only good thing for CHs and such is they are slowly adding more types of creatures, greater and lower version of originals. We can only hope for such to happen for avian meat. Would be nice if the birds of endor actually had avian meat instead of herb meat too.
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