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Thread: as a master chef who has worked very hard to build up his inventory

MumboJumno
Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:45 pm
#1

and craft many different lines of foods and depend on mutiple suppliers am I about toget stiffedwhen the CU hits ?


Please can the devs let us know if the foods we make now will be converted over and how ?

I have about 250 crates of foods which I have finally managed to be able to make after working chef for 6 months to get the resources and funds to do this.
Lako
Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:33 am
#2

All foods I made were converted... until I get a better idea of how much they help in the new system..I can't say if i'm happy with how they were converted or not.

I think it's safe to say that schef will still be a good prof. People will still want to get that edge on other people and thats where foods come in.



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Qbx9
Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:14 pm
#3








Lako wrote:
All foods I made were converted... until I get a better idea of how much they help in the new system..I can't say if i'm happy with how they were converted or not.

I think it's safe to say that schef will still be a good prof. People will still want to get that edge on other people and thats where foods come in.





My god man... be honest. The devs are planning on screwing us. I have over 2000 full crates of food/drink on my vendors. They will all be worth ZILCH after the CU.


The conversion rates are terrible. If the CU went into effect today you would find more people leaving SWG than when WoW was released.


Sure hope the devs do something about the conversion rate because as it stands now, I will have no reason to continue paying swg after they screwed me out of millions of credits worth of vendor stock.


All that is asked of you my friend is to be honest. Take a look around and you will see that we are getting screwed royally, just like we got screwed after Chef revamp.


I suppose your going to try to say we didn't get screwed with regards to our current stock when chef revamp took?


Too all chefs that think they should hold on to their stock, DUMP IT NOW. REPRICE it super cheap or you are going to lose it all!

Message Edited by Qbx9 on 04-20-2005 01:17 PM



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sciguyCO
Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:06 pm
#4

From my brief look at converted foods (TC-Chilastra was barely up long enough for me to glance at anything), it appears that the food conversion is being done on a straight experimentation basis. If you experimented to 20% filling / 50% duration / 70% nutrition / 20% quantity with a +87 BSN, the converted food was identical to newly crafted food with that same experimentation and tissue. So any complaints should focus on the post-CU food stats, since those are the ranges that are being converted into.




Qbx9 wrote:

I suppose your going to try to say we didn't get screwed with regards to our current stock when chef revamp took?



Well, to be fair, after the chef revamp all the old food stayed the same. The reason we got "screwed" (as you put it) was that the new schematics were undeniably better (with the possible exception of Tatooine sunburn, which was overpowered for it's level anyway). Well, that and some filling digestion changes, so that high-filling foods from pre-revamp remained high filling, but took longer to digest than it did before.





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ThemeIngredient
Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:09 pm
#5

When the chef revamp first came to us, a few chefs screamed about losing the fishaks and the tat sunburns. We prevailed and worked on just fine, heck we got even better. The curb has been talked about constantly and you took a gamble of holding 2000+ crates of food and drink on your vendor. You could have sold all your stuff for less to make some creds at the very least instead of having useless stock now. You took a risk and it didn't work out.


As any good crafter, we just need to find out what the good stuff will be and try to get rid of the old stock. I would consider either selling your stuff cheaply now before the curb hits and pass out some of the rest to others so you can be more well known when the new foods are out and about.





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Groid
Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:50 pm
#6

looking at the tc4 post cu food stats, you wont get hurt badly. There are several duplicate food/drinks, some have terrible fills, terrible durations, but the conversion will make them useable.


Also.. any PRE chef revamp foods.. will convert to useable stats now also!

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Lako
Wed Apr 20, 2005 3:51 pm
#7


Qbx9 wrote:


Lako wrote:
All foods I made were converted... until I get a better idea of how much they help in the new system..I can't say if i'm happy with how they were converted or not.

I think it's safe to say that schef will still be a good prof. People will still want to get that edge on other people and thats where foods come in.


My god man... be honest. The devs are planning on screwing us. I have over 2000 full crates of food/drink on my vendors. They will all be worth ZILCH after the CU.

The conversion rates are terrible. If the CU went into effect today you would find more people leaving SWG than when WoW was released.

Sure hope the devs do something about the conversion rate because as it stands now, I will have no reason to continue paying swg after they screwed me out of millions of credits worth of vendor stock.

All that is asked of you my friend is to be honest. Take a look around and you will see that we are getting screwed royally, just like we got screwed after Chef revamp.

I suppose your going to try to say we didn't get screwed with regards to our current stock when chef revamp took?

Too all chefs that think they should hold on to their stock, DUMP IT NOW. REPRICE it super cheap or you are going to lose it all!

Message Edited by Qbx9 on 04-20-2005 01:17 PM




I'm willing to bet your sales won't change much. If anything, they'll go up a little at first with all the combat guys wanted to test new stats.

I didn't say we'd be perfect...all I said was that there would still be a need. As a matter of fact, until I get some good testing done..as I said, i'm not sure if i'm happy or not. I will not say we're being screwed until I see it..which I haven't

Message Edited by Lako on 04-20-2005 03:56 PM



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MeciniaLua
Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:00 pm
#8

The greatest problem for us is that after the CU if released as it is today stat buffing foods and drinks will no longer stack at all. That means you can sip brandy twice, or drink brandy and eat vercupti. This will majorly affect us. Hopefully it is just a bug. If its not you will probably see the end of large scale crate sales, if anyone even buys a crate after this. I've been letting most of my stock run down.


I have a few reasons for this, one I'm trying not to get stuck with stuff just in case. Two when I make stuff I almost always ( unless I forget ) change the name to include the stats, since these will change in the CU I don't want to have a lot of stuff customers have to check before they buy because lets face it customers are lazy and will not read and we might be stuck with that stuff for a year.


Anyway just my thoughts, I bought me a 12 point med suit for my alt......



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Qbx9
Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:39 pm
#9



ThemeIngredient wrote:
When the chef revamp first came to us, a few chefs screamed about losing the fishaks and the tat sunburns. We prevailed and worked on just fine, heck we got even better. The curb has been talked about constantly and you took a gamble of holding 2000+ crates of food and drink on your vendor. You could have sold all your stuff for less to make some creds at the very least instead of having useless stock now. You took a risk and it didn't work out.
As any good crafter, we just need to find out what the good stuff will be and try to get rid of the old stock. I would consider either selling your stuff cheaply now before the curb hits and pass out some of the rest to others so you can be more well known when the new foods are out and about.





LMAO

I don't even think you know what you are saying... but thanks for agreeing with me 100%.




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Qbx9
Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:42 pm
#10



sciguyCO wrote:
From my brief look at converted foods (TC-Chilastra was barely up long enough for me to glance at anything), it appears that the food conversion is being done on a straight experimentation basis. If you experimented to 20% filling / 50% duration / 70% nutrition / 20% quantity with a +87 BSN, the converted food was identical to newly crafted food with that same experimentation and tissue. So any complaints should focus on the post-CU food stats, since those are the ranges that are being converted into.

Qbx9 wrote:

I suppose your going to try to say we didn't get screwed with regards to our current stock when chef revamp took?


Well, to be fair, after the chef revamp all the old food stayed the same. The reason we got "screwed" (as you put it) was that the new schematics were undeniably better (with the possible exception of Tatooine sunburn, which was overpowered for it's level anyway). Well, that and some filling digestion changes, so that high-filling foods from pre-revamp remained high filling, but took longer to digest than it did before.




I'm pretty sure you were not a chef before revamp. The reason we all got screwed was becuas the filling on all older foods was shot up through thte roof making it absolutly useless, not any of the jibbersh you have said here.



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Qbx9
Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:47 pm
#11



Lako wrote:

Qbx9 wrote:


Lako wrote:
All foods I made were converted... until I get a better idea of how much they help in the new system..I can't say if i'm happy with how they were converted or not.

I think it's safe to say that schef will still be a good prof. People will still want to get that edge on other people and thats where foods come in.


My god man... be honest. The devs are planning on screwing us. I have over 2000 full crates of food/drink on my vendors. They will all be worth ZILCH after the CU.

The conversion rates are terrible. If the CU went into effect today you would find more people leaving SWG than when WoW was released.

Sure hope the devs do something about the conversion rate because as it stands now, I will have no reason to continue paying swg after they screwed me out of millions of credits worth of vendor stock.

All that is asked of you my friend is to be honest. Take a look around and you will see that we are getting screwed royally, just like we got screwed after Chef revamp.

I suppose your going to try to say we didn't get screwed with regards to our current stock when chef revamp took?

Too all chefs that think they should hold on to their stock, DUMP IT NOW. REPRICE it super cheap or you are going to lose it all!

Message Edited by Qbx9 on 04-20-2005 01:17 PM




I'm willing to bet your sales won't change much. If anything, they'll go up a little at first with all the combat guys wanted to test new stats.

I didn't say we'd be perfect...all I said was that there would still be a need. As a matter of fact, until I get some good testing done..as I said, i'm not sure if i'm happy or not. I will not say we're being screwed until I see it..which I haven't

Message Edited by Lako on 04-20-2005 03:56 PM





Well sir, I would suggest you get your testing done if you are going to be a leader in this forum. Others have tested and posted their results. The coversion rate (if not fixed) is once again going to screw all of us that have worked very hard to make sure that our customers always have what they need on our vendors.

Unlike one of the other chefs that tried to comment on this thread, keeping a large stock of foods ensures repeat customers, basic supply and demand. He must be from Russia or China not to understand this. Anyway, the New Game that will be created out of the CU will once again screw all the old timer chefs, if the current rate stays in effect.

Thanks, your loyal customer base appreciates it!



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Milgram
Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:57 pm
#12







All that is asked of you my friend is to be honest. Take a look around and you will see that we are getting screwed royally, just like we got screwed after Chef revamp.






Hahaha, are you kidding me? A guildie came back to SWG and asked us "where is a good place to get fishank and corillian ice cream?" After laughing at him, we introduced him to the wonder that is brandy. We then told him about synth steak and thak. Ya, chefs really got the shaft in the chef revamp. Pshhhh.




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Qbx9
Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:23 pm
#13







Milgram wrote:






All that is asked of you my friend is to be honest. Take a look around and you will see that we are getting screwed royally, just like we got screwed after Chef revamp.






Hahaha, are you kidding me? A guildie came back to SWG and asked us "where is a good place to get fishank and corillian ice cream?" After laughing at him, we introduced him to the wonder that is brandy. We then told him about synth steak and thak. Ya, chefs really got the shaft in the chef revamp. Pshhhh.






You are comparing apples to lead bolts.


The issue at hand is current food stock. We got screwedat Chef revamp with the thencurrent food stock and we are getting screwed now with current food stock.


To your point, a totally seperate one, I agree 100%. The Chef revamp gave the Chef profession a much more important role in SWG, there can be no doubt about that.


But, once again, we are not disussing your point here. Thanks for you feedback though on a different thread somewhere.


Message Edited by Qbx9 on 04-20-2005 05:24 PM



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