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Thread: How much do you charge for schematics?

SirVimes
Sat Mar 06, 2004 4:14 pm
#1

I am just curious how much do you charge for schematics...keeping in mind that you don't have to provide any resources, just the schematic?


Personally, I charge 2k per schematic (keeping in mind to do 1000 brandies you need 7 schematics.) Considering I am loosing none of my resources and takes 5 minutes of my time and is only a drop in the bucket of what people are asking for....I think 14k for 5 minutes is a fair deal.


What do other people think?
Gracchus
Sat Mar 06, 2004 4:29 pm
#2

I would pay 200k for a schematic if I were to buy one out of respect for the BE profession. I have 3 serious BE partners that I could term "friends" if I chose to but I prefer to keep business and friendship separate. So, I dont lean on them for favors and they dont lean on me.


I've been asked to make a shcematic and I dont. Niether would I ask another profession to schematic for me. I have millions in stacks of flora and plenty of meat for recipes and could easily bang out broad spectrums, but I choose to keep to a separation of labor partnership. I dont trade or barter for services. I pay cash. And I think its appreciated. I get whatever I need when I need it this way.


IMHO


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MikaelGueck
Sat Mar 06, 2004 4:46 pm
#3

I give non-BE schematics out freely to people I know. For those I don't know (and who don't present gifts of large meat stacks) there isn't really a decent amount of credits that would make it worth my while to drag my behind somewhere and wait.

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SirVimes
Sat Mar 06, 2004 4:56 pm
#4

Well, that is the condition....They have to meet me at my shop. No, I am not going all over the place to meet them.
Ezran
Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:00 pm
#5

I would charge a % of what I would expect to make on the item. Probably 25-50% of my full price.

Just like I would charge 75-80% of full price for someone else to sell my finished product.

To me, the time, effort, and demand are worth much more than the resources. Just like real life.



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Dsabre
Sat Mar 06, 2004 9:12 pm
#6



SirVimes wrote:
I am just curious how much do you charge for schematics...keeping in mind that you don't have to provide any resources, just the schematic?
Personally, I charge 2k per schematic (keeping in mind to do 1000 brandies you need 7 schematics.) Considering I am loosing none of my resources and takes 5 minutes of my time and is only a drop in the bucket of what people are asking for....I think 14k for 5 minutes is a fair deal.
What do other people think?





it really would depend on what schematic...

personally I would not sell any schematic that needed subcomponents...it takes a while...can prove to be problematic with split crates and factories, etc...and in general is really a pain.

on the other hand subcomponents, or schematics that require no subcomponents...I would charge nothing for. if someone wants to tip, thats fine, I won't say no to free credits. or if they feel they need to give me a stack of meat or something that'd be ok too.

in general if someone wanted a schematic for BE brandy, I'd charge 50k per sub-comp schematic (cause I really don't enjoy having to sit around next to a factory and wait for someone there, or have to run out to meet that person at one of their factories), and 100k for that last one...so 400k...and if they were really demanding and didn't at least ask relatively nicely...4 mil (3.6 mil being the "I don't like you, or your attitude fee" ex. "make me a brandy schem"...my response..."sure, that'll be 4 mil" or "please find another chef, I don't deal with people that make demands").

the only exception to this would be if making schematics was part of a trade with a BE, then of course it'd be whatever the trade agreement was for.

its more of an inconvenience/waiting/travel fee than a fee for the actual schematic, and they'd have to ask while I'm not out hunting or searching for resources.
S1ave1
Sat Mar 06, 2004 9:42 pm
#7

I think all the snivelling and fishing between chefs and BEs is not going to be ultimately productive. I have a respect for the effort spent on achieving the ability to make BE schemes, but I don't think you should be able to complain about not getting a significant chunk of profits for providing a service. Being able to provide that service cost BEs some time and points. I would likely provide a schematic once or twice for minimal cost, then expect someone to buy the finished product thereafter.


I am fortunatelyin a position to create my own BE enhancements for food, so it is a non issue. But I do not see much good coming from the inter-profession sqwabbling.







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Wire3k
Sun Mar 07, 2004 12:24 am
#8

I've been selling BE schematics for 10k a pop. I will occassionally make the nutrients - but given the prices I have to charge - it's more to have them on the vendor for someone desperate than anything I plan on selling just a ton of.


What I do sell in factory lot loads are the irritating subcomponents like dough, alcohol, carbosyrup, trim, casks, glasses - etc.


The announcement about not being able to sell in backpacks is going to MAJORLY affect my component trade. Most of the chef stuff I usually bag up in full run lots so it's grab and go for the chef without having to hunt and search for matching crates on the vendor. I really, really hope sanity rears it's head once they wade thru that thread - 99.9999% of which is folks dead opposed to that change.


But back to additives. Nearly everything I touch requires meat - great whopping truckloads of it. For me to divert what sources I have into additives is usually stretching things a bit too thin. The runtime on a full load is also about 2 days - days I can't always spair from my factories. That's a bottleneck that seems best shifted to the chef - and so far, my chefs seem very happy and it's worked out well. Food additives are consumable items - I don't mind making schematics for that.







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SirVimes
Sun Mar 07, 2004 12:34 am
#9

This is not about squabbling. I have always sold schematics cheaply when asked, because I didn't see any reason not to. While I was making those schematics my factories is still making my own product to sell, so this is something extra.


I am now wondering if I have been selling them too cheaply, and I want to know what other people think. That is the sole purppose of this thread...no squabbling.
Titzosh
Sun Mar 07, 2004 2:10 am
#10

Haven't sold any to anyone. Since I'm more a guild chef than public sales, I probably would not make it for them.



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Tierra
Sun Mar 07, 2004 2:46 am
#11

I can honestly say that I have never been asked to make a schematic for anyone


Ohhhhhhhhh no! I was asked to make a fishak schematic for someone before the revamp and I refused based on the fact that (at that time) things werent pulling out of the crates properly etc and I didnt want to be held accountable in any way for this. The guy was pretty nice and said he understood.


Hmmm Im not sure how much I would charge if asked. Part of me says low because it is there resources at the end of the day... the other part of me remembers how long it took me to get master chef and how many credits I spent on collecting my SEAs.... Id also be concerned about becoming a schematic chef, I love running my cafe businesses and I love roleplaying the part of a chef, Im not sure I like the concept of being a schematic producer.


Alot of it for me would depend on who was asking I think.


With my BE I make schematics for a 2k charge, although to be honest Ive been tipped a lot more by tailors and chefs. I do expect them to come to me though, Im lazy


Reading back over that its pretty interesting that I dont like the concept of selling food schematics with my main character but my secondary character whos profession I use for my own end, I will happily sell the schematics quite low.. I feel quite bad now


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Dridstar
Sun Mar 07, 2004 3:49 am
#12

10% of the factory run. Run of 500=50k...1000+100k. May seem high but it's not. Not when I have my vendor stocked with the nutrients. I'd rather they buy from me. I can't use the stuff and I make it for them. There are so many other things i could be using the meat on. The price is low considering what they will make on the run, and what I will lose because they aren't buying from me.



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SirVimes
Sun Mar 07, 2004 10:59 am
#13






sciguyCO wrote:



And I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but wouldn't 1000 brandies require 6 schematics, not 7? To do that, you'd need a second alcohol schematic and a second brandy schematic in addition to the four I've got above, since the additive and casks can be re-used in the second run of brandy, right? Or are you also counting the BE factory run (which most chefs couldn't provide the schematic for anyway)?





Nope, seven. Remember, because of the 2 identical trim, you can only get 500 out of the cask schematic.


So for 1000 you need:


2 Alcohol schematics


1 Additive schematic


2 container schematics


2 brandy schematics


If they wanted a small glass or large glass it would be 6.


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