Chef Archive
Thread: How much do you charge for schematics?
SirVimes wrote:
Nope, seven. Remember, because of the 2 identical trim, you can only get 500 out of the cask schematic.
Ah, so I was missing something.
uts on dunce cap and sits in the corner
If they intend to sell, I ask them to make a donation that they think is "reasonable"
If it is a single schematic or 2 schematicsand they provided resources prolly not much at all. ie non BE bivoli. If it is something that is going to take multiple factory runs with them coming back to me to make the next step, I probably would not do it. or charge quite a bit. Not because of what they can sell it for, but because it would take quite a bit longer than 5 mins to do all that espcially if you count "interuption" time for several days.
Since supply is lowthis wouldnt be as much of a concern, but when supply levels out, I do not know I would want to do schematics except for friends. Reason being, lets use Bivoli for example, that is a finished product not a sub. They will turn around and directly compete with you in sales and they are going to make a large profit on that schematic if you only charge 2k per schematic. There has to be some point to actually taking the time and effort to master a profession. How much would an armorsmith or a weaponsmith charge for a schematic of finished products? I am sure it would be more than 2k per schematic. Now if we made a subcomponent for another class I would sell those dirt cheap, because there is NO direct competition.
Denoby Retired Master Chef
want to pay a mill, someone will charge you that and then can say that prices are so high I gota charge this much to make any creds at all.
I outa this topic since I do not get asked and only do schems for guild mates. I have no flag over my head for profession and I like it that way. But I one of them dang BE's that has no respect for credits and will give a schem if provided the materials and hope they nice and give me a bone somehow. <shrugs> I have my millions so what do I care. Its nice I not asked. <laughs about price talks>
BristaAB wrote:To be really honest if I knew of a reliable chef, who wasn't planning to drop the profession, selling schematics at 2k a go I'd be strongly tempted to no longer shop at chef vendors but drop a food factory and buy resources
14k + raw resource costs for enough brandy to keep all my friends supplied for a couple of months is an unbelievable deal
I think I probably wouldn't as I'd rather make food with my chef and not with my commando and I wouldn't be entirely comfortable with squeezing out the chefs I know (and who are gracious enough to make Dweezel and Veghash and whatever other wierdness I come up with)
On the other hand if someone asked my chef character for a schematic for something they wanted to try out but which I didn't want to make myself (like Chor- Hor-Noola or whatever it's called) it would be a judgement call for me. If I thought it was just a regular player wanting to try something not available in the shops then free or a nominal charge like 2k would be ok. If I thought they were re-selling I would charge what I felt would be a high enough price to get me a significant cut of their profits
I can't imagine ever providing someone else with a schematic for Brandy unless they were a very close friend
My sentiments exactly. If you charge 2k for a schematic (we're talking random people here, not friends or PA members) you're essentially devaluing every product you make, and the profession as a whole. If someone wants a sample, I'd do exactly what my BE supplier did when I was testing differing resources in additives: make a schematic, and set a production limit of 25.
Now, if a regular customer or friend wants a schematic for something I don't/won't stock, that's a different situation. However, imo, a player who has invested zero time grinding, zero resources grinding, and zero skill credits in Artisan/Chef should not be able to gain the full benefits of being a Master Chef for a mere 2k and a swgcraft.com bookmark.
SirVimes wrote:
This is not about squabbling. I have always sold schematics cheaply when asked, because I didn't see any reason not to. While I was making those schematics my factories is still making my own product to sell, so this is something extra.
I am now wondering if I have been selling them too cheaply, and I want to know what other people think. That is the sole purppose of this thread...no squabbling.
I have no problem selling a schematic for pretty cheap. 20-30k I would say I've usually asked for. But this assumes a few things. They will not be selling what the schematic is making or selling anything after using what it makes. The 20k-30k is pretty much taking into account no skill and only my time. Most people that are just using it for personal use are not going to be buying crate after crate. They are asking for a schematic because they can get a bonus without having to empty their bank account every day. I have no problem helping someone out like that.
That is a big difference from using the schematic for business purposes. That I have to treat as a business transaction and price it accordingly. That price is so random and takes in so many other things that I can't get a estimate. I just figure something out at the time. This applied to other professions I've done before chef. I don't think I would ever make a final product schematic for someone that I expected them to put the food on a vendor and sell it. While I don't care about the competition I just think it is unfair to all the other chefs on my server.
To be really honest if I knew of a reliable chef, who wasn't planning to drop the profession, selling schematics at 2k a go I'd be strongly tempted tono longer shop at chef vendors but drop a food factory and buy resources
14k + raw resource costs for enough brandy to keep all my friends supplied for a couple of months is an unbelievable deal
I think I probably wouldn't as I'd rather make food with my chef and not with my commando and I wouldn't be entirely comfortable with squeezing out the chefs I know (and who are gracious enough to make Dweezel and Veghash and whatever other wierdness I come up with)
On the other hand if someone asked my chef character for a schematic for something they wanted to try out but which I didn't want to make myself (like Chor- Hor-Noola or whatever it's called) it would be a judgement call for me. If I thought it was just a regular player wanting to try something not available in the shops then free or a nominal charge like 2k would be ok. If I thought they were re-selling I would charge what I felt would be a high enough price to get me a significant cut of their profits
I can't imagine ever providing someone else with a schematic for Brandy unless they were a very close friend
I have never been asked for a schematic, but I can say I'm surprised no one on this thread has considered pricing based on the quality of the items created by said schematic.
Meaning, if they give me ingredients whose end-product would compete with my own, I would definitely charge more (probably a flat rate based on size of the schematic). However, if they gave me junk that experimented poorly, I doubt I would charge anything.
My main concern with selling schematics is supplying my competition with MY quality standards. My price would need to force them to sell product higher than my vendor price or lower the profit margin significantly (hey, it is business after all).
Cyene