Chef Archive

If I was a BE I wouldn't do this for you frankly.

I don't think it is greedy to produce and sell popular items that other classes need.

Otherwise why play a BE?

-Junkor

I had a guy ask me for a schematic for Muon the other day. I told him that I could make such a thing, but that the price was very high. He declined to purchase.

--Yak

Dear All:

Why do i find this insulting as a BE? I am not intending to start a fiery discussion, but let common sense prevail please (I realise common sense is an oxy-moron). Why should one profession sell itself short at the expense of another? WhenI see a someone asking around for fruits and berries, I know darn well what they are attempting to brew up LOL, and I will be darned if I am going to sell them cheap berries, fruit, or additives etc so that they can turn around and sell them for a crazy profit as brandy.

Common sense says that if two reasonable people sit down on a brandy making project, perhaps one a BE and the other a chef, that they reach some agreeable split on the proceeds, or a fair price for the additives at least so thatboth arehappy.

When Ifirst made the mistake of putting up my BE titles (I like breeder darn it) after the chef patch I was inundated by tells for cheap additives. Needless to say my generic response was this: "Many of the same resources used in chef additives are the same as those used in BE tissues that sell for a lot of money. I do not wish to make additives that are a consumable, as opposed to a high quality durable tissues, and definitely not at 1/5th of the price." (I delete non-syn cloth tissues that are under +15 stats.)

I wasn't being snobbish by saying these things... merely stating facts. Since it all settled down, and the chefs that sent ridiculous tells back then have now spent a little time to survey the landscape, I am actually working with a chef or two and making some nice brandies. The next batch will hopefully be a really sweet one for the guild (freebie).

Please be awarechef friends that while all your brandy ingredients are machine harvestable (and therefore easy to obtain), one quarter of the medium nutrient additive (broadspectrumnutrients) is meat. Meat is a pain in the backside to rustle up in significant quantity without the aid of a guild hunting party or the like. Thankfully, as I discovered through minor experimentation, meat quality (when mixed in with 75% of high end floral food for the nutrient additive) has fairly little impact on the nutrient bonus. So using a 500 average stat (FL/OQ/PE) meat with a 900 average stat (FL/OQ/PE) floral food works fine to give you a mid 80's additive. I try to churn these out in a minimum of 10 crate batches.

Food for thought ... all puns intended

Cheers,
Aileric (formerly Lin'lea)
TOG, Valcyn, Master BE almost CH

PS> CH was the holo, and BE the wife faction profession as she is a tailor... guess which I mastered first :-)

Well i am sorry to hear about all your bad expeiriences but Be's that will make them for free or cheap ar out there i have 3 that will do it for me.As for the people that keep talking about the price of the meat and such that is why i said for the chefs to get resources.I know for myself i hit endor when ever i need it and can pull about 15.5k of meat in a cpouple hours.Which will make 30 crates of additives.Which isnt a lot but being the fact i dont sell any of my stuff i just make it for fun to give to friends and such 30 crates can last me a week or so. No my BE's arent dumb they just have other avenues for making cash, i generally give them a whole crate of brandy when they make me a schematic but like i said no real loss to me since i do not sell it, all the brandy i make in a sense is a loss.

"Why should one profession sell itself short at the expense of another?"

Not to beat a dead horse here, but understand not even1/2 of all BE's I have met in-game share this opinion. My BE friendhas no interest at all in doing meat hunts, gathering flora, or making any Chef supplements herself.

I would love to buy crates from her, but SHE provides me with schematics instead because its mroe convenient for HER.

So, once again not to be inflammatory, but I find it very arrogant of both Chefs and BEs that come here to the forums and assume their entire profession plays exactly like they do.

Play the game like you want, but please don't attempt to impose your values on the rest of us as if they were universally accepted.

With hundreds of thousands of people playing this game, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say there'splenty ofroom for people who won't ever sell schems and people who will.

Cyene

Hello BE's how about this question: how many experimentation lines are on every single additive? One right? Just put your 10 points in and poof it's done. How much of your skill is needed for that activity? 1.3 million for 2 minutes of work? Good gosh, particularly since the odds that a chef has the several 10's of thousands of meat for a single run is pretty small (oh btw you don't have to spend time harvesting/buying/begging for that meat either in this case). Now, maybe you feel you earned it because of that nightmare of a learning curve for making pets that you have to endure or the never-ending difficulty you have in getting meat, fish, and DNA samples for your own needs. But are Chefs responsible for that? Would you rather just deal with making pets for CH's with real specific needs (AR1, 55% kinetic, 10k HAM, Dizzy, KD special attacks, Ranged, CL70 non aggro skin, 100k right?).

Padre

I just bought a schematic for 3k a couple minutes ago.Like i said i only made this thread to let people know the option is out there, you will find Be's like the one's that are posting in this thread also.Just ignore the ones that seem to have an attitude about it and i am sure you will find one.As someone else stated there is no reason for a BE to charge millions for something that at most takes them 30 seconds to make, as long as you supply the resources.I dont see it as BE's selling themselves short, IMO i feel the BE's that are getting mad in this thread are gettting mad because here they were charging chefs outrageous prices for stuff and now they feel someone is trying to undermine them. If they feel that way i am sorry but i am not sorry about posting this thread.

Another reason for me posting this thread is to possibly lower the prices on good brandy. Most likely this wont happen but it was a shot.