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I was one of the first master chefs on Kauri and enjoyed it a ton since release. However for about 2 months there I took a break and just messed around with DAoC until the revamp. Well now the revamp I came back to find that inflation has sent the cost of everything sky high. I can't buy any tapes to increase my experimentation because other master chefs are outbidding me by millions. I have never even had a million credits to my name.

I have my own vendor and I also advertise like the dickens on our server boards. It just seems no one buys. I make all the good foods well and have decent stats on both BE enhanced and not.

I am just very frustrated because I see Sykes with his huge wallet and I know I can't get there. It just disheartens the fool out of me to see Chefs saying they are making 3 mill a day, or paying 27 million for tapes that give them 12 points.

I can't sell enough to get a base of materials or a loaded vendor.

What do you guys recommend?

-Ed

Sounds like you need to work on re-establishing your connections. During the break that you took other chefs were able to surpass you in that area. Work on getting aquinted with people who can help you do your job better for cheaper. There is always someone out there looking to strike a deal. You may also need to re-establish your reputation and presence, something that is inevitably lost when you take time away from the game. Good Luck!

If you seriously cannot afford the extra food +exp points have you tried asking any guild members for a loan or favours (swap/free/cheap/whatever for resources/BE additives). If you are not selling (well) you have to see why. Are your resources crap/average/good/best? What are you mining? Have you compared your prices to other food/drink (of similar stats?).I spent 4 months mining the best resources I could so I could put out some of the best food/drink out for people to buy. I'll assume you are talking about me (at least for one thing?) as you mentioned the 27mil for 12 points. Well, I've basically been crafting/buying (the best) resources/examing www.swgcraft.com for best resources to mine/putting the foods on vendors/setting up contracts for suppliers/buyers for around 7-14 hours a day. I've put in a hell of a lot of effort because I had one main goal. To put out as much of the best possible product I could for the people on our server.

I've been somewhat achieving that goal. I feel for you in regards to outbidding because I spent a good 3-5 weeks being outbid by everyone on food +exp tapes as well. Everything suddenly came together as I pretty much got all the +20 exp points together within a week. So basically, examine what else is out there, see why you aren't selling (much) and make a pro-active plan to change that. While I was a chef in 2003, I did not make many sales because I simply had an inferior product and did not know too much about the ins and outs of chef/crafting. I spent a hell of a lot of time doing background research (to see what products people looked for). A good tip is actually ask fighters-PVE or PVE for what stats they want in food/drink and see what you can do to achieve it.

There must be some (logical) reason as to why you can't make sales to your satisfaction. Work out why and fix it I hope you find something of value from this post, it's basically what I did to change myself around from a crap-o-rola chef to someone who takes immense pride in their products that most consumers will love (you can't please everyone all the time).


Good luck with whatever you choose to do. As one chef said to me not too long ago during a chat session "This is crazy. There is more work to this (chef profession) than to real life work"

You can do this.. to get started.. make a few specialized items.. ON MY SERVER, noone seems to be making the crafting foods, Pyrolian Cake and Bespin Port. Just make a few special items, charge a fair price, give away some samples.. the bait and hook method.

Ask the buyers you have what they need. Make 2 versions of the 'pool' foods, a quantity version and a quality version. Price as single items. Become the McDonalds on YOUR server. Its not the best, but its cheap, and always there.

Over time, you will discover you need to place more vendors, especially when you can begin to stockpile some foods. Find an Armorsmith/Weaponsmith and ask if you can place a food vendor in their shop. The additional traffic food vendors pull will help you all out.

Soon, you will have 6 vendors in 6 cities, all selling McDonald foods... not the best, but cheap and always there. The cash will follow.

Two ways to make it rich.. quality and quantity

Even I dont have the funds to chase the quality foods, and will someday go hunt my own skilltapes ( with zero combat skills, this may take some time)

Good luck, be patient, and have fun.

Mokianna

Master Chef, Bria Server

Yesterday I took the day off from chef because I was getting sick of it, and actually went out and for the first time used the products I was making. The following is my overall (personal) opinion of chef. Btw this is not 'flame bait' or trolling; it is my sincere opinion. Basically with the exception of the brandy. its a waste of time and I'm sorry I got involved in it. Its like the Emporer's clothes, because it is new and the revamp was touted by the development team everyone got excited about it. Most of this excitement is due to that fact that people who have been playing the same game for a year will readily sieze upon anything that is novel to relieve the tedium. So as each new food comes out people will convince themselves that they cant get along without it (whatever it is they fancy).

When I say waste of time I'm saying that from the point of view of the end user. From the merchant perspective its fine. Similar to a classically trained chef opening a McDonald's franchise: he would never eat it but he knows he can make great money selling it, eat whatever the hell he wants thereafter, and have it served to him by an obsequious staff.

Yesterday I went out with my lower toolbar pane loaded with food and drink to work on rifle. I came back to coronet a half hour later, swallowed my resentment,and joined the line waiting for doc buffs. I was 9th in line; I waited 30 min or so and when i got to the doc he said 'bank tips only' (I had previously withdrawn all my credits), bythis time another doc had started a line so I switched over to that (5th in line), by the time I got close to him he declared he was no longer buffing. Went to a third doc, 6th or 7th in line. This guy wasnt saying how much he charged (wasnt saying anything) so when it was my turn I quickly tip'd 10k; he bangs out 5 buffs in rapid succession 1.5-2.5k each and then there was a long pause. I'm wondering wt* is this guy doing? Well I guess he was rummaging in his pack for that **edit**ty enhance d action pack because the last buff he gave me was for 800 action. Didnt say anything and went off to hunt.

I relate this story because I had hoped chef would enable me touse and sell decent albeit modest stat buffs that would give me and others the option to be self sufficient in the field. In my opinion brandy and accarragm are the only 2 that somewhat achieve this but they are both drinks and interfere with eachother. Also they can only be medium enhanced for nutrition bonus so in reality they are not that great. There is no drink for the health stats and it dosnt look like there will be (garrmorl is a f-ing joke) and the food stat enhance are a laugh with 10min duration and 40 filling (average). Completely useless in my opinion.

From a practical standpoint these ineffective foods serve only to complicate the managment of your character in a game that is already filled with micro management, i.e., constantly opening windowsto checkyour filling bar to see when you can eat/drink again. For my purposes as a veteran fighter (previous to this first run at merchant) I wouldnt even bother with the skill enhance food/drink but would instead use stat enhace food/drink if there were any that were effective and worth the time to consider.

Again these are general statements (as it is called generalizing) but for me it represents the overall picture of chef and its uses to the game. I know and can see how many of you cream all over yourself getting an extra 5 pts here in duration, post lengthy exegisis on the benefits of +2 pts more for for bivoli tempari, continue threads for a week 4 pages long on the benefit of those extra 2 experimentation points, launch into a heated diatribe when someoneoffers critique ona pet method or technique, and hey, if losing yourself in minutia turns you on then live it and love it. I prefer looking at the the big picture and what I see is too abstract for my taste

^^ weird because several people (including myself) cannot live without food/drink. Food compliments a doctor buff perfectly (no way in hell is food a replacement for doctor buff in 90%+ of the times) but if you have a doc buff, it is useless if you get mind shot/hit all the time or in my case, *NEED* mind to use your specials (TKA in my case) constantly to kill enemies 10 times quicker or else your health + action wears down pretty damn fast.. Can't add more as I caught this as my gf said "bed time" so, I'm off. I may say more in the morning or when I get to work.

Brandy is by far the top seller. I am not making the top stuff, but its hard work to keep it in stock.

But there are other foods that sell very well. Food not drinks, because they will interfere with the brandy and nearly everyone drinks always two of them. Problem with the food is it only buffs for about 10-15 minutes, but it sells. Besides Vagnerian Canap, Won Won and Kiwik some defense and skill foods sell well like Synthsteak or Thakitilo.

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Wyan_Warbringer wrote:
I was one of the first master chefs on Kauri and enjoyed it a ton since release. However for about 2 months there I took a break and just messed around with DAoC until the revamp. Well now the revamp I came back to find that inflation has sent the cost of everything sky high. I can't buy any tapes to increase my experimentation because other master chefs are outbidding me by millions. I have never even had a million credits to my name.

I have my own vendor and I also advertise like the dickens on our server boards. It just seems no one buys. I make all the good foods well and have decent stats on both BE enhanced and not.

I am just very frustrated because I see Sykes with his huge wallet and I know I can't get there. It just disheartens the fool out of me to see Chefs saying they are making 3 mill a day, or paying 27 million for tapes that give them 12 points.

I can't sell enough to get a base of materials or a loaded vendor.

What do you guys recommend?

-Ed

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Don't give up just yet. The pansy Chefs on our server who either keep Chef because they think it is Ub3r l33t for credits will soon drop it when they realize that the average person only buys 1 crate of brandy a week. With everybody making brandy, you just need to diversify yourself.

Need money for skill tapes? **edit** man, come visit my cantina. I'll give you enough creds to buy one of those overpriced robes. There are more robes out there than Chefs. Those prices will fall soon enough. I'm sure I have a few single mod tapes lying around as well.

Need resources? I can probably help you there too.

Credits aren't everything. Happiness means more. I gave an un-named Chef from our server a 1 million credit grant just because she convinced me that she was cincerley interested in the profession. You enjoy the profession. I would hate to see you quit and I'm sure the Copacabana scholarship fund can find room foryou.

I would though like to see some of the 1-star goobers who "think" they are Chefs quit. They know who they are.

Once you get your feet off the ground, move off Naboo. I only make sales because people come looking for me or they are referred. Planets like Dantooine could use a vendor near a spaceport. I like my solitude and personal interaction with my customer base. I see chefs making money selling crap in a good spot. Well get you in good shape to drive them out.

No offense to any Kauri Chef I have interacted with, but we all know who the pansy punks are. One day, if I get bored, perhaps I will organize the "real" chefs of Kauri and drive you punks out of business entirely.

To those who make people like Edix think about quitting, I could last 6 months selling at cost or below just to eradicate you. Think you could make it?

Chef is the flavor of the month. Next publish it will be something else. We need chefs like you Edix, more than you know.

To comment in "general" to Gracchus, I don't need doc buffs because I use my own food effectively. I have TKA, Docs, carbine folks etc who all want food/drink crafted specifically to thier play style.

Once Publish 7 goes live, they will be well ahead of the person waiting in line for the nerfed Doc buffs.

My alt is a CH/Pike/Ranger. I love my own food. Many Melee types see what I make, why I make it and come back for more. I even specialize in pikeman power-ups.

Find a need, and then meet it.

There is plenty beyond Brandy/Canape/Bivoli if you make right.

TY sykes,

I appreciate the boost and the help. Cash isn't really an issue as I have kind of a sugar daddy named Kaimerai...=o) He made his millions in weaponcrafting so if I need cash he helps me out. I just want to be useful. I would aprreciate any tapes that you have. I am somewhat limited in that I am a wookie and can't wear the damn robes. I would have never become a wookie had I know all the damn limitations I would face just for a few more stat points.

Send me an email in game when you'll be on.

-Ed

Dont fret Edix. Your still my buddy Dont quit chef. After reading your post, I feel even I might be able to help. Just message me in game and we can talk.

As the Galaxies most beautiful female chef,Im not dropping this for nothing in the world. My other prof is TKA. I eat this food and drink all the time. heck, even whenI am sampling at the starport, I might chug a brandy to give me more mind, more sampling time without needing to sit. The regen covers me pretty good.

As far as usefulness, you have to be kidding. Food is very useful if you know what you are doing. Eating a Cav cream and a swirl or 2. Followed by a Veghash is key to my every battle.

Without food, I would need to rely on docs. As of now, I havent gotten a Dr buff in over a month, and frankly, dont need one right now.

Anyway, give me a hollar. I will be sure to give you some ideas.

P.S. Where are these robes? Not that I can afford one, regardless, I would be interested in checking it out. hey a girl can dream.