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Thread: Price Check on BE Synthsteak
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svin
Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:56 am
#1
I just created some pretty good steakI think.
40% Dmg reduction
25 attacks (this is kind of low)
Quantity 5
Fill 26
What is a fair price?
Maistro
Sat Mar 20, 2004 10:51 am
#2
i take 150k for my synthsteak its a little better but then again booth prices and the quality on different servers is so far from the same that you should actully try yourself to figure out a price. estimate and put it up for that price. if it sells well tehn stay with the price until it sells "to" well. if it doesnt sell decrease the price.
mrthx
Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:10 pm
#3
42% 32 attacks and priced at 80k, doesnt sell very well. I may lower it.
Saitek
Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:27 pm
#4
I sell BE synthsteak for 30k a crate, 44% for 36 attacks. Sells very well.
mrthx
Sat Mar 20, 2004 2:37 pm
#5
Saitek wrote:
I sell BE synthsteak for 30k a crate, 44% for 36 attacks. Sells very well.
You are wacky though. Some of us have to make money back so we can continue to produce food.
apulieus
Sat Mar 20, 2004 4:00 pm
#6
saitek,
Your charging 11.4 cpu for sytnthesteak and 6.5 cpu on thakitillo which i got from your other thread. In each case your pretty much charging less than market value of top quality resources, which is what you seem to use from your stats.
So as far as i can tell your not making food for free, your actually making it at loss considering you could just sell what you harvest for more.
Saitek
Sat Mar 20, 2004 4:15 pm
#7
I make 1 million to 2 million credits every 2 days, so no, I am not operating at a loss. Also I rarely buy my resources, I harvest all my own, so I pull in an estimated 1 million units of resources every 2 weeks or so. Paying 6cpu for resources is not a very economical way to doing business.
Message Edited by Saitek on 03-20-2004 06:17 PM
Numen
Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:10 pm
#9
Saitek wrote:
I make 1 million to 2 million credits every 2 days, so no, I am not operating at a loss. Also I rarely buy my resources, I harvest all my own, so I pull in an estimated 1 million units of resources every 2 weeks or so. Paying 6cpu for resources is not a very economical way to doing business.
Message Edited by Saitek on 03-20-2004 06:17 PM
If you can harvest all the meat and hide you use more power to you. 20-30cpu is low on my server for meat and I can rarely get a responce at 20cpu for any decent size lot of hide.
I'd like to see if all your foods are around that price as if they are you must be selling huge amount of crates of BE foods and running 8-10 full tissue runs a week.
11ish CPU on BE casked brandy puts it at around 95k.
Now if you don't charge that, why do you expect more profit from that than sythsteak?
Your more than welcome to charge what you want. I'm guessing you put a lot of work in each week. It obviously must be worth it to you otherwise you would have stopped by now. Your price at least on BE Sythsteak just isn't good business sense.
Saitek
Sat Mar 20, 2004 7:02 pm
#10
First off I harvest all my own flora resources, I have more resources than I know what to do with (+4 million atleast). Berries, Fruits, Fungus, Oats, Wheat, Wood, whatever it is, I have it. I have all resources in 100k stacks, and I have varieties from several planets. I have 10 of my own harvestors dedicated 24/7 to harvesting the best resources out there and on occasion I ask my combat friends with empty lots to through down some harvestors as well. If you have 5 harvestors and lay down each one on a different resource you will never have enough, the key is to lay all 5 down on 1 single resource. I also spend hours searching planets for resources and the best percentage spots.
The only resources I buy regularly is water and cyrstalline gemstone, all of which I buy for no more than 4:1. I also have alot of friends who are holo-grinders who when they have left over resources offer to give them to me.
As far as meat and hide, I would consider 20 -30 CPU extremely high, not neccessarily for Doc meats but for generic good meat and hide that is extremely high (on my server). I usually purchase meats for around 10 cpu for excellent quality, and more frequently I find Rangers who are more than willing to give me 10k of meat for a crate of Brandy and some Veghash. I also have meats given to me from my guild, we have an organic storage where people who are grinding XP go out and hunt and drop of whatever they bring, I usually have to fish through it to get the best stuff. I also found a vendor on my server that has stacks of 5k of meat for only 20k, I visit that place frequently. On top of all of that I go out and hunt myself. Yesterday I was on Dathomir and gathered 6k of meat.
Milk I frequently harvest myself but lots of people drop milk off at my vendor for free.
The whole key to being the most cost efficient is to establish relationships. I was the first Chef on my server, and have had ample time to establish relationships and make friends. This whole game is about interdependancy and meeting people and unless you embrace that you will find your costs accelerating.
For instance, I get chef trim for free (I do pay the maintence and power on the factory for the Tailor), I also get BE comps for 0k to 5k a crate. Does this mean I do absolutely nothing for it, absolutely not. In exchange, I give them crates of food. As a chef you have a "talent" and there are quite a few people willing to exchange services for services. I also try to help them out as much as possible, if a BE needs meat, I get them meat.
The biggest down side is that if 1 of them has down time I have down time.
As far as factories I keep them running all the time. If one isn't running that's lost capital.
I have my pricing broken up into brackets, depending on resources. This is mainly for my sanity. So if a food lies within a certain bracket, it gets a flat fee per crate attached. I am very confident in my abilities as a chef to price flat rate. That is why on some products I make more profit than others, but overall I'm o.k. with that and its easier on me and my Master Chef Partner Caius.
Plain and simple I produce for less, so I sell accordingly.
The only resources I buy regularly is water and cyrstalline gemstone, all of which I buy for no more than 4:1. I also have alot of friends who are holo-grinders who when they have left over resources offer to give them to me.
As far as meat and hide, I would consider 20 -30 CPU extremely high, not neccessarily for Doc meats but for generic good meat and hide that is extremely high (on my server). I usually purchase meats for around 10 cpu for excellent quality, and more frequently I find Rangers who are more than willing to give me 10k of meat for a crate of Brandy and some Veghash. I also have meats given to me from my guild, we have an organic storage where people who are grinding XP go out and hunt and drop of whatever they bring, I usually have to fish through it to get the best stuff. I also found a vendor on my server that has stacks of 5k of meat for only 20k, I visit that place frequently. On top of all of that I go out and hunt myself. Yesterday I was on Dathomir and gathered 6k of meat.
Milk I frequently harvest myself but lots of people drop milk off at my vendor for free.
The whole key to being the most cost efficient is to establish relationships. I was the first Chef on my server, and have had ample time to establish relationships and make friends. This whole game is about interdependancy and meeting people and unless you embrace that you will find your costs accelerating.
For instance, I get chef trim for free (I do pay the maintence and power on the factory for the Tailor), I also get BE comps for 0k to 5k a crate. Does this mean I do absolutely nothing for it, absolutely not. In exchange, I give them crates of food. As a chef you have a "talent" and there are quite a few people willing to exchange services for services. I also try to help them out as much as possible, if a BE needs meat, I get them meat.
The biggest down side is that if 1 of them has down time I have down time.
As far as factories I keep them running all the time. If one isn't running that's lost capital.
I have my pricing broken up into brackets, depending on resources. This is mainly for my sanity. So if a food lies within a certain bracket, it gets a flat fee per crate attached. I am very confident in my abilities as a chef to price flat rate. That is why on some products I make more profit than others, but overall I'm o.k. with that and its easier on me and my Master Chef Partner Caius.
Plain and simple I produce for less, so I sell accordingly.
Message Edited by Saitek on 03-20-2004 09:09 PM
GeminiMoon
Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:01 pm
#11
Go use the calculator on swgcraft.com
You'll find that if you charge more than 1 cpu per resource, your making a profit.
6cpufor mineable resoucres. This is to cover travel cost, factory costs and harvester cost, as well as profit.
50cpu for creature resources (bone/hide/meat/milk). Make this your max and try to buy lower than that, yet always use this when calculating your prices for "max profit". This is also to ensure dependability of rangers and scouts...yet it doesn't seem to work for me...lol
So with BE sythesteak...you get a price of 1450c per item...that's 36250 credits per crate. I find this method extremely useful and brings me in line with a lot of the popular items other chefs are selling (ex. I sell crates of brandy at 73k, other people sell around 75-90k...except for the people who don't realize that these aren't looted items and are still selling at 400k per crate)
apulieus
Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:32 am
#12
My point wasn't that your not making money, but that you could make the same money with little effort by just doing resource supply. Basically all your network effort and food crafting is a freebie bonus to your harvesting business.
Saitek
Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:41 am
#13
You could say that point about virtually any crafting profession. Selling resources is an easy option for anyone but I'm not a resources supplier, I'm a chef, so I make food.
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