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Thread: My Vasarian Brandy Factory run : +364 for 45 mins, 18 stack

Kansalis
Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:05 pm
#1


I just posted this on the Eclipse forum to get some feedback on pricing from the consumers :



I'm starting a factory run of Vasarian Brandy tomorrow with the following stats :


+364 Mind, Focus & Willpower

45 minutes duration (exactly )

49% filling, so you can drink 2 at a time

18 per stack


The current digestion time is 45 minutes, so you can keep a +728 buff to all mind stats with no downtime (maybe a little due to timings, but not a lot). This doesn't touch your food bar at all, so you will be free to further boost mind with something like Vagnerain Canape, or use a different skill or stat buff altogether.


Bearing in mind I have used very high quality materials, a medium BE food additive, acask & a total of 6 factory runs to make them..... What would you consumers pay for something with these stats?


As this stuff is obviously very new, I have no idea what to set the price at.



I thought I'd also come to the Chef community to ask for your opinions too



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OOSquishy
Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:19 pm
#2

Quite nice.

Let's see, for something like that I would think 3-4k per stack would be good...


Since 18 charges being used at 2 at a time (9) would last 6 hours and 45 minutes making it quite comparable to those Dancer and Musician buffs.
Zhor
Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:27 pm
#3

Somebody on our server made a similar crate and stated his running costs were almost $200K to make per crate! How much did it cost you (minus labour, just resource costs) to make it per crate?




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Kansalis
Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:37 pm
#4


Well up to now, I have never bought resources, I always mine them myself, so my costs are rock bottom. It takes 355 resources to make one of these stacks. Taking out the 20 units of meat that would be 335x whatever the cost per unit is for harvesters. I think it's something silly like 0.4cpu. Going by that it cost me something in the region of 134 credits per stack.


However, there's no way I can base my selling price on that.... It's taken me over 9 hours solid game-time to get everything together and so far I've only done the component factory runs. I still have to do the final combine for the additive, and then the final-final combine for the drink.


Also, I have made these from resources I have 'laying around' after months of mining for Doctor resources on my other character. I haven't harvested anything at allespecially for this run. I asked a PA Tailor to make the schematic for the trim on the casks and found a Master BE with the search feature to do the schematic for the additive (Edit: I paid the BE 25k for his time).


When I get to grips with the Chef system (I only mastered 3 days ago) and start to harvest specifically for making foods, I expect my costs and time invested to go up considerably. I also forsee that I won't have anything like enough time or lots to be able to harvest all this for myself, so I will have to start buying resources.

Message Edited by Kansalis on 02-13-2004 01:54 AM



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Daizon
Thu Feb 12, 2004 6:45 pm
#5

I Mine resources and buy resources since that is really the only way to keep up when good stuff spawns.



Based on my operating costs and factory time included it costs me right at 100k a crate to make my BE enhanced Brandy. If your friend buys more than I do I can easily see the cost going as high as 200k to produce.



I am not sure what the economy is like on Eclipse so hard to say what you should sell those for Isodi. I would probably sell them for about 8k a stack myself.





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Chewie101
Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:13 pm
#6

Even if you mine your on resources you need to remember that you can sell those resources instead of making food so they are worth at least 3cpu even if it cost you 1 cpu to mine them



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DiceDuP
Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:23 pm
#7

Nice. I just made started a factory run of the same but with +408 (+816 with 2 shots) for 40 minutes. But i refuse to use casks or large glasses as they aren't economically viable. A crate of 25 with 6 uses will keep a player buffed for 50 hours of play without wasting all that gemstone. The less resources the better with this stuff, as factory times on bio-components and medium additives is extremely long, and having to make 2 other components on top of that before getting to the final run, makes the small glasses the option in my view. Players who are "Muon addicted" would have to carry 12 crates around to one of the above to get 1/3 of the effect and masses of downtime


I don't know how smugglers are gonna survive selling muon with this stuff about, with the ever increasing figures im getting with the higer quality of resources i'm managing to experiment with, can Muon compare with it? Maybe as a quick add-on for PvP or some serious force hunting. But with all 3 stats buffed at the same time, this is gonna be extremely popular.





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Unitarius
Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:53 pm
#8





Kansalis wrote:




The current digestion time is 45 minutes





Im sure you maybe talkin about yer drink here, but it's kinda unclear in the message there. Made me think you were talking about your stomach digestion time from the first read over, may wanna clarify that for customers. They've been asking me lots of questions about thier new stomachs.


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Message Edited by Unitarius on 02-12-2004 09:57 PM

ReeseHilsborne
Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:59 pm
#9

I got mine at +399 for 37 min with 21 charges at 49% filling



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elitwo
Thu Feb 12, 2004 9:31 pm
#10

100k a crate easy



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ReeseHilsborne
Thu Feb 12, 2004 9:38 pm
#11

Imsaying more then that, this stuff will take longt o make crates of and the buffs are way better then anything before it, they hit all mind stats now. Well thats if you use the medium additives.



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Kansalis
Fri Feb 13, 2004 4:32 am
#12








Unitarius wrote:


Im sure you maybe talkin about yer drink here, but it's kinda unclear in the message there. Made me think you were talking about your stomach digestion time from the first read over, may wanna clarify that for customers. They've been asking me lots of questions about thier new stomachs.






I was talking about the stomach digestion time. I know the devs said it would be reduced to 30 minutes for the live patch, but it wasn't. It's still somewhere in the region of 45 minutes.


I think I'm going to set my price at 10k per stack for this current run. I need the cash to buy more resources


I hope they get barrels fixed soon, then I can make bigger stacks with the BE additives. Higher volume for the same (or similar) effort can never be a bad thing.




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frenchchef
Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:26 am
#13

wooaaa !!! great vassarian !!! good job kansalis



can you post the stats of the resources you have used to make this great vassarian?


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