Chef Archive

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Orykko wrote:
One thing that I do not understand about the PvP based discussion (ie BH vs Jedi) is that neither of you can do it anymore. As for the discussion on Chef sales, people will now purchase a larger variety of products. Before this change I would not have even given the time of day to the defense / offense foods, but now I will probably invest in them.

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This nerf has effectively destroyed 2 professions.

As a MBH, I Know Just what sort of damage a LS dose to me, 1.5 Hits & Im History without a Decent Buff. If I cannot Kill the JEdi in 2 Ranged Hits, I'm dead..."Pure & Simple".

My only options, if i wish to keep hunting jedi, is to hunt same faction, Join groups & wait till my mark is in combat & down to less than 10% health, then take him out. Or I can Join Mass Gank squads of BH's & hope that when the Jedi goes down, That it was me who did the most damage in order to get the reward.

Both of these Methods require No food at all & nearly every BH in the Galaxy is going to start doing it (even the ones who are 100% against Ganking & same Fastion Hunting), Including myself.

This will lead to the Exclusion of BH's grom Groups, because nobody will trust them any more (with good reason) & BH will then have to all resort to ganking. And Jedi will start Screaming once again about Gank Squads.

All because the only advantages that have any value to a BH has been Nerfed to utter worthlessness.

So if you are a Jedi & you Mistakedley Let a BH in your Hunting group, then find yourself in a cloning facility after being 1 hit killed while your health was down......, Don't scream at the BH or Complain to the Deva that it aint fair. Because its the Only way we have of beating you now. This type of play was forced onto us with the removal of food Buff stacking. To go toe to toe with you "without buffs is Suicide", Nobody wants to Die...So we do what we have to.

As for Chefs, You all should be Screaming at the Devs about this, cause i am just one BH, there are 1000's of us out there who will stop using food altogeather & use easier ways to get our marks. Even Dodge/Melee/Defence Food will go unbrought because they will be of little use if the BH only needs to cheat to get his mark. Plus the fact that a BH only basically gets 1 shot, mabe 2 befor a Jedi is on top oh im, Ranged Accuracy Melee def food will be a waste of time, 1 hit from the LS & its over, with a minimum of Health, a Melee defence mod won't help much at all.

So no Even Defence & accuracy foods will not be brought in large quantities.

I Cancelled my Accoun Last night, the acc is paid up to the 20th of this month. If i no longer have any reason for existing in this game, other than to Cheat, lie, Gank & use totally underhanded tactics, then i no longer have a place in the game, as will many other BH's. And I'm sure many Jedi will be just as un-happy at being permenently subjected to unfair tactics. Nothing needed to say about the feelings many chafs have ATM.

I never thaught i'd hear myself saying this, but the Devs are making one bad call after another & each time a large chunk of the player base leaves. This game is going to die if they don;t Pull their Collective fingers out & fix the problems completely..!!

Message Edited by BobaFettish on 05-31-2005 07:27 PM

Me, I am holding on to the hope that some attention willbe paid to chef in the next month or so.

My sales are down since 17, but they are not dead by any means. I actually think that half the reason they are down is because my stock is running low.

We (Chefs) will need to adapt to the current menu, learn to stock what moves, and adapt what does not move. Perhaps low fill ahrisa?, long Vercup?

If there are only a half dozen HAM buff foods that work, then we will need to make the other foods, dogde, melee def etc, in larger quantities. I know that a lot of them are borked right now, but I have to keep my dreams alive that they will fix those sometime soon. The sky is not falling, any of us who have been around for a long while know that there are good times and bad. I remember waaay back when foods could actually kill those that ate them.. Now THAT was tough on sales

/keeping a postive outlook

Cheers,

Bliznit' Trw'Brew: Elder Chef and Officer on Chilastra

Ice Cold Beer and Great Foods available at:
Naboo at -3900 6100 in the City of Basinia
Dantooine, 400M north of Mining Outpost at -639 2907
Come on by for a Beer or two
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Bliznit wrote:

Me, I am holding on to the hope that some attention willbe paid to chef in the next month or so.

My sales are down since 17, but they are not dead by any means. I actually think that half the reason they are down is because my stock is running low.

We (Chefs) will need to adapt to the current menu, learn to stock what moves, and adapt what does not move. Perhaps low fill ahrisa?, long Vercup?

If there are only a half dozen HAM buff foods that work, then we will need to make the other foods, dogde, melee def etc, in larger quantities. I know that a lot of them are borked right now, but I have to keep my dreams alive that they will fix those sometime soon. The sky is not falling, any of us who have been around for a long while know that there are good times and bad. I remember waaay back when foods could actually kill those that ate them.. Now THAT was tough on sales

/keeping a postive outlook

Cheers,

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JediMelvis137 wrote:

First, I fixed the subject...lol

Second, I hope the DEVs come to their senses on this one. Taking one food/drink should not drop another food/drink unless ALL of the MODs of the first food were succeeded. In other words, I should be able to combine DIFFERENT foods until my stomach is full to achieve the best levels of all stats. They wanted us to use more strategy, and food/drink/spice/doctor buffs is where that starts.

So if I take:

Breath of Heaven for +423 +200 +200 +50

and

Vagnerian Canapes for +315 +50 +0 +200

and

Neutron Pixie for +20% +20% +20% -20%

I should end up with:

(Health+423)*120%

(H Regen + 200)*120%

(A Regen +200)*120%

(M Regen +200)*80%

Right?

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correct! tho breath of heaven doesnt really last long enuff butis perfect for pvp nice mix dood 5 stars for being a good lad

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steveybabes wrote:

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JediMelvis137 wrote:

First, I fixed the subject...lol

Second, I hope the DEVs come to their senses on this one. Taking one food/drink should not drop another food/drink unless ALL of the MODs of the first food were succeeded. In other words, I should be able to combine DIFFERENT foods until my stomach is full to achieve the best levels of all stats. They wanted us to use more strategy, and food/drink/spice/doctor buffs is where that starts.

So if I take:

Breath of Heaven for +423 +200 +200 +50

and

Vagnerian Canapes for +315 +50 +0 +200

and

Neutron Pixie for +20% +20% +20% -20%

I should end up with:

(Health+423)*120%

(H Regen + 200)*120%

(A Regen +200)*120%

(M Regen +200)*80%

Right?

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correct! tho breath of heaven doesnt really last long enuff butis perfect for pvp nice mix dood 5 stars for being a good lad

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Message Edited by JediMelvis137 on 06-05-2005 12:49 PM

The real problem in this mess is that food were changed to percentage buffs instead of the raw numerics of before. This leads to a problem where the devs have dug a hole for the playerbase and because of the HISTORY of players in this game and PRODUCERS in this game accepting nerfs as the status quo, it was easier to make filling completely worthless than correct food buffs to the original WORKING system of management.

The obvious answer to this problem is to change all food buffs to a numeric range, AGAIN, and allow any form of food stacking imaginable. Get rid of percentages and it solves the problems because FILLING is already there to manage intake.

I'm not even a really good chef and this is complete obvious.

Fivo Asia

Cafa wrote

makes sense (I think)

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Moebius01 wrote:

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Bliznit wrote:

Me, I am holding on to the hope that some attention willbe paid to chef in the next month or so.

My sales are down since 17, but they are not dead by any means. I actually think that half the reason they are down is because my stock is running low.

We (Chefs) will need to adapt to the current menu, learn to stock what moves, and adapt what does not move. Perhaps low fill ahrisa?, long Vercup?

If there are only a half dozen HAM buff foods that work, then we will need to make the other foods, dogde, melee def etc, in larger quantities. I know that a lot of them are borked right now, but I have to keep my dreams alive that they will fix those sometime soon. The sky is not falling, any of us who have been around for a long while know that there are good times and bad. I remember waaay back when foods could actually kill those that ate them.. Now THAT was tough on sales

/keeping a postive outlook

Cheers,

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Hey Bliz!

You know I really love posts like yours. Because you maintain a sense of optimism and refuse to hop on the "Chef is dead" bandwagon. Cheers. That's what we NEED... optimism and the knowledge that this entire revamp is a work-in-progress. Most of the time... I try to and am pretty good at adopting the same attitude. However, even *I* am starting to feel a bit forlorn.

/start rant

My sales have really dropped significantly. Now I'm not all about the benjamins... but it makes me worried for the future. Used to be I would log in after work and almost ALWAYS have some sales. Enough to get me jazzed about a good job on my part making it, a fulfilling profession, and make me feel like making more. Now? Some days a few... some days NONE. Last THREE days have been NONE. Fact of the matter is Chefs need to spend money in order to make it (at least *I* do). I have spent MILLIONS on meat, and even though I am swimming in it right now... eventually I'll need to pay hunters for more. The problem is, if I haven't made enough between now and then, my future business suffers drastically. I hate to say it... but it looks like a downward spiral from here. Doc buffs I can understand (and I WAS a doc too so I'm not a third-party here)... but foods? Especially when you look at the frankly PITIFUL food durations since CU... I can't see how they can possibly see fit to NERF not only food stacking but enhancement value as well?? So they nerfed the duration, the nerfed the stacking, and they nerfed the enhancement. They nerfed EVERY potential selling point. I'm TRYING to remain optimistic... but even MY "optimism gear" is wearing thin.

/end rant

Ok I feel better. Like I said.. EVERYTHING will be FINE.

Actually Higgins... I saw you mentionedyou had heard "things" about upcoming info? Anything you can share in terms of rumored details or a timeline?

Message Edited by Moebius01 on 06-17-2005 12:58 PM

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Seems different on my server. I know I am knew to Chef but my sales haven't been too bad. If I had my mailsave working properly I could tell you just how good/bad my sales have been but I have just opened up new vendors at a good mall near the busiest npc city on my server and have made about 3m today alone and my vendors have been up just over 24 hours. Also there are 2 other well established Chefs with vendors very near mine, one only 300m away.

I agree you need to spend money to make it with Chef. I must ahve invested 70m nearly and I have about 120m worth of food waiting to be sold. To be fair 50m of it is for a private order which I am waiting to be bought any day now but even still on my server at least chef doesn't seem to be a dying prof at all. There does only seem to be only 5 big name chefs on my server with at least 2 vendors. Maybe a few smaller ones but I've never seen others spam or advertise on the trade forum. Maybe the cost of investment and the time and effort has put a few off. Its easy to be a Chef I think. Just difficult to be a good one...