Chef Archive
Thread: Combateers got moneynerfed big-time, please lower your prices :(
MaliaMing
Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:54 pm
#40
Eceen wrote:Missions didnt get nerfed like you claim.. I have a master Chef and another toon that has always been about combat. I have been playing since launch so I know a thing or two about the game. Now, about the credit nerf, even after the patch i continued to solo on Dantooine and the only difference is I get a system message that tells me "Some group members are out of range to recieve mission reward." And then I get the full payout. So truely on Mokk missions at 20k or voritor hunter missions at 24k, as a master commando it takes me about 5 minutes per lair ( I have to wait between each flame single) I can make about 1.5 - 2mil per set of buffs and typically go through only 20 charges of brandy and a crate of 5 canape.. On Corbantis where everything is priced out the yang I still only pay 300k for a crate of 25 brandy and 100k for cnape. The money is still there.
Just curious, any idea why the brandy is SO much more expensive than the canape? 100k is unheard of, being that it uses more components and a larger additive than brandy. I just had to ask.
CraftingGenius
Sun Jan 02, 2005 4:01 pm
#41
its not about what it takes to make it, its about do people use it alot? and with brandy yes, almost everyone in the game uses it, from doctors to entertainers to combat people, to even crafters that want to survey really fast, I know your not new or anything but thats why the price on brandy has not gone down a cent, everything else actually has, forcing me to lower prices, but i still make the same income I dont know how and why but I do 
Wengel
Sun Jan 02, 2005 5:23 pm
#42
i take 225k for brandy, and 150k for canape.
The price is higher for 2 reasons:
1) Those goddamn casks is a pain. 150k Crystalline Gemstone and 2000 Trims. Then Medium tissue, Alcohol component and the fruit/berries. (Berryfruit on Chimaera is also very expensive in high quality - ages since there was a good spawn)
2) Canape is usually easier to make for me. Just the additive and 1 component - dough... and the fruit/berries.
Brandy takes longer to make, and require a lot more resources/components due to Casks. Aka, price is higher.
Ikooga
Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:17 pm
#43
I sell my brandy for 250k and my Canape for 200k.
I think I'm on the higher side of the price here, even though not overpriced yet.
But then a crate of brandy has 3 times the charges of Canape usually, since the stacksize is 18 for brandy and 6 for canape.
Also Brandy lasts longer, 45 minutes versus 10.
So in the end a one minute buff with brandy is a lot cheaper than with Canape
I think I'm on the higher side of the price here, even though not overpriced yet.
But then a crate of brandy has 3 times the charges of Canape usually, since the stacksize is 18 for brandy and 6 for canape.
Also Brandy lasts longer, 45 minutes versus 10.
So in the end a one minute buff with brandy is a lot cheaper than with Canape
CaraAnam
Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:20 pm
#44
I just gotta say i love IKOOGA!! nice post back there with the math breakdown I hope the creator of the thread read it
nice post back there with the math breakdown I hope the creator of the thread read it it's sad that he is on a crappy server that is charging that much for brandy tho lol
bizondele
Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:02 pm
#45
I can't wait to see his post in a few weeks.. hey BE's you need to lower your prices so i can make the best brandy...whahahahahahahahahahaha
JemyM
Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:08 pm
#46
Sorry for posting off-topic in my own thread, but...
Still not making any serious money with the jedi but due to the endless grind (have done 5,5k missions for one week straight now) I was able to afford another crate of brandy. I know what you are saying, 5,5k missions for a week, he must have enough money to buy several crates of brandy by now...
Well, not really. Lots of it have been going to lightsaber resources, and it takes like 30-40 minutes to finish 2 missions... and then there is the buffs that cost money, and sometimes I have to join a sologroup to be able to get missions that gives me higher level missions (for xp) meaning that I get no money at all (7k splitted among 20 people). I also burn through Snowcake like candy...
Anyway, it looks like I got a discussion going among you guys regarding brandy prices, so I do no longer feel like a complete failure.
Btw, Garrmorrl really helps jedi grind. I got a whole crate once from a retiring chef and I never see it in stores now... The added regeneration bonus makes me survive against much tougher opponents despite my lack of armor. In fact, its so damn effective that its essential to my grind now... even with full buff.
And after reading through the Chef FAQ today im on hunt for chefgrinding resources.
JemyM
Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:09 pm
#47
bizondele wrote:
I can't wait to see his post in a few weeks.. hey BE's you need to lower your prices so i can make the best brandy...whahahahahahahahahahaha
Friend is doing aBE/Ranger with his alt. Im going Chef/Merchant. Hes dependent on me, im dependent on him.
JemyM
Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:13 pm
#48
Wengel wrote:
Running a successfull Chef (or any other elite crafting profession) requires A LOT of time, if you wanna provide well stocked vendors for your customers. So plz stop whining about Chef. If my prices are too high (200k/bivoli, 225k/brandy, 125k/ahrisa and so on), then why am i selling for 5-10 millions PR DAY?!
Lol, im happy enough if I earn 100k extra per day... 5-10 millions... dear god.
Higginsis
Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:34 am
#49
Eceen that got fixed, solo groups have been "nerfed".
Tho you can get 11k missions whcih spawn about 3 things and take all of 10 secs to do.
Tho you can get 11k missions whcih spawn about 3 things and take all of 10 secs to do.
Selenei
Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:24 am
#50
JemyM wrote:
bizondele wrote:
I can't wait to see his post in a few weeks.. hey BE's you need to lower your prices so i can make the best brandy...whahahahahahahahahahahaFriend is doing a BE/Ranger with his alt. Im going Chef/Merchant. Hes dependent on me, im dependent on him.
welll not to nag or anything, but be/ranger is nice, but it doesn't kill anything (i have both , a ranger and a be myself). Killing stuff with the be's death hand (sample) is slow and won't allow you to harvest. If he rely's on you to kill stuff for him to harvest he is probably grouped, meaning he takes a 40% penalty on his harvests (thats why rangers are loners) and if it takes you 40 minutes to take out a single mission (as you stated yourself) you won't get much meat, so, still, buying meat will be very important.
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JemyM
Sun Feb 13, 2005 2:56 pm
#51
I became a Chef.
I buy BE components for 30-50k.
I sell Brandy for 135k and make a nice profit. Thats less than half of what my competitors want for their brandy.
In my advertisement I list that I have Combateer-friendly prices, and i sell out pretty quick. I am in a grinding community and will put up an even cheaper vendor there.
I_Zombi
Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:58 pm
#52
JemyM wrote:
I became a Chef.
I buy BE components for 30-50k.
I sell Brandy for 135k and make a nice profit. Thats less than half of what my competitors want for their brandy.
In my advertisement I list that I have Combateer-friendly prices, and i sell out pretty quick. I am in a grinding community and will put up an even cheaper vendor there.
The price chefs charge has very little to do with the cost of the resources that we use to make the stuff. Look around and you'll usually see people charging more for brandy than bivoli, when the resources that go into bivoli probably cost 75-100% more than the ones we use for brandy. Really, if we want to maximize our profits, we have very little control over our prices. The prices are a function of the demand for the product... it's as simple as that. You can complain that we charge too much, but a merchant will charge what their product is worth in the market. If we charge less than that, we'll sell out too quickly, like you're doing,and make less money per crate. If we charge more, we won't sell as quickly and make a profit slower. Whining about people's prices when most of us have trouble keeping things stocked at our current prices is just ignorant.