Chef Archive
Thread: The Legend of the Double Buff Vercupti
Mor-Dan
Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:37 am
#27
was like (from dr to oq) 900/850/900/850. those are obviously approximate stats.
the guy who said this food isn't very useful, that is only because you do not understand WHO i am marketing to and how i went about it. i did not market this as simply a HAM booster, because you so elquently put, it doesn;t mean much if you are on your back. there are two scenarios, however, where it means a lot.
1. You have a jedi. You are grinding. A hunting party shows up and before you know it half your HAM is gone. you slam this stuff for that extra 2k and force run your booty out of there to a spot where you can either regen and set yourself for those who will almost certainly be following you, or log out.
2. You get TEF'd and don't realize it until someone comes along and pops a couple eyeshots or mster headshots on you. you pop these suckers and suddenly you and them are even ground again.
a third idea is for PvP tourny's where buffs are allowed but armour is not. you can buy two or three cases of stuff for 100k-150k each that will effectively increase your HAM by better defense, or buy just one case of this and watch their reaction when your HAM exceeds 5k to each stat. i had people stop spamming specials to ask me wth just happened.
cost is set, but value is relative to the buyer. you see no value in this. does that make it true? no. you think these other foods are better. is that true? no. is this the best thing to ever hit any server? no. is it an effective food that, until the resources and %'s needed to achieve this product were posted, is rare because only one chef is actively making and selling it? yes. that is why the cost was 400k. that is why the cost COULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER. many people would have paid 600k-750k per crate if it were more limited just to be able to show off. i could have kept it to myself for several weks and let word of mouth stir up even greater interest and get even more off the cases. instead, i spoke with other crafters known for having elite products that were attainable no where else and had them help set the price. expensive, yet not totally outrageous.
the guy who said this food isn't very useful, that is only because you do not understand WHO i am marketing to and how i went about it. i did not market this as simply a HAM booster, because you so elquently put, it doesn;t mean much if you are on your back. there are two scenarios, however, where it means a lot.
1. You have a jedi. You are grinding. A hunting party shows up and before you know it half your HAM is gone. you slam this stuff for that extra 2k and force run your booty out of there to a spot where you can either regen and set yourself for those who will almost certainly be following you, or log out.
2. You get TEF'd and don't realize it until someone comes along and pops a couple eyeshots or mster headshots on you. you pop these suckers and suddenly you and them are even ground again.
a third idea is for PvP tourny's where buffs are allowed but armour is not. you can buy two or three cases of stuff for 100k-150k each that will effectively increase your HAM by better defense, or buy just one case of this and watch their reaction when your HAM exceeds 5k to each stat. i had people stop spamming specials to ask me wth just happened.
cost is set, but value is relative to the buyer. you see no value in this. does that make it true? no. you think these other foods are better. is that true? no. is this the best thing to ever hit any server? no. is it an effective food that, until the resources and %'s needed to achieve this product were posted, is rare because only one chef is actively making and selling it? yes. that is why the cost was 400k. that is why the cost COULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER. many people would have paid 600k-750k per crate if it were more limited just to be able to show off. i could have kept it to myself for several weks and let word of mouth stir up even greater interest and get even more off the cases. instead, i spoke with other crafters known for having elite products that were attainable no where else and had them help set the price. expensive, yet not totally outrageous.
Meplorium
Sun Apr 18, 2004 1:04 pm
#28
Not sure if any of that cost stuff was directed to me, but if so, I never said anything about what you charged. There is just better food out there, no mater how good or how unquie this stuff is made. A Jedi on his back can't force run away, and 2k HAM only buys you a few more seconds when that hunting party shows up. In a PvP tourny, it can has it uses if your standard defenses are already high and you aren't facing anyone that will do any special attacks other than hit your HAM. In that case this stuff is useful, as long as you have 45 minutes between your fights. I would like to make this food and I may do so in the future. For the filling and duration I just don't see it being all that great, though not useless. I would rather have this stuff be a lower effect and lower filling/longer duration. Then it becomes more practical. Your Vercupti is great, just vercupti itself isn't that useful.
Jerele
Sun Apr 18, 2004 3:30 pm
#29
So we should look for OQ and DR? Well how would this work"
Insect Meat: DR 958 OQ 994
Lub Oil: PE 931 OQ 881 (Best ratio)
Tuber: DR 973 OQ 992
Wheat: DR 896 OQ 989
Water DR 901 OQ 947
WOuld this make a FIlling 50 Vercupti? There old resources and I will try to find them.
Insect Meat: DR 958 OQ 994
Lub Oil: PE 931 OQ 881 (Best ratio)
Tuber: DR 973 OQ 992
Wheat: DR 896 OQ 989
Water DR 901 OQ 947
WOuld this make a FIlling 50 Vercupti? There old resources and I will try to find them.
Mor-Dan
Sun Apr 18, 2004 4:01 pm
#30
jerele, if you can get 2 or 3 amazing successes on the filling, you would have 4 points instead of 3 (assuming you have 12 total) to play with on either duration or power. this would easily make it to 50% filling or less.
Meploriam, i did have another reply to you here, but deleted it because i am just not going to argue with you. we understand, you don't think it is useful. point taken.
Meploriam, i did have another reply to you here, but deleted it because i am just not going to argue with you. we understand, you don't think it is useful. point taken.
Jerele
Sun Apr 18, 2004 4:02 pm
#31
Well Im no Chef, but I'd get my Master Chef with 12 points to make it. I can get 600 Units of the Tuber now, maybe more, but these are old resources and are hard to come buy so Ill have to see about it.
Mor-Dan
Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:51 pm
#34
wheat materials dont matter. the dough component is non-experimental.
Malicious1
Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:20 pm
#36
i got to 51 filling and capped n the resources end....criesw im waitin for a decent lube spawn now to get to 50.....cries again
Darkagent101
Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:42 pm
#37
With a story like this I have hope forus non-combat professions yet. THAT actually sounded like a fun craft-experiment-resource gather session
JehremySung
Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:15 am
#38
Mor-dan,
Very inspirational stuff I can't wait to get home to start our making this or at least gathering up all the resources needed to actually make it. I'm just wondering what the stats on your insect meat were... I can't find it in your post. These are the resources that I have can you predict succes for me? =D Or dismal failure :S
Insect meat: DR 980 OQ 698
Tubers DR 979 OQ 734
Lube oil DR 902 OQ 959
I'll try anyway this is too good to pass up on. Especially since Marrow will take at least a week to make master chef
You go buddy!
Thanks
I'd give you five stars but you might get crushed under all the other stars' weight already ah what the heck there you go.