Chef Archive

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PadreBook wrote:
Hello BE's how about this question: how many experimentation lines are on every single additive? One right? Just put your 10 points in and poof it's done. How much of your skill is needed for that activity? 1.3 million for 2 minutes of work? Good gosh, particularly since the odds that a chef has the several 10's of thousands of meat for a single run is pretty small (oh btw you don't have to spend time harvesting/buying/begging for that meat either in this case). Now, maybe you feel you earned it because of that nightmare of a learning curve for making pets that you have to endure or the never-ending difficulty you have in getting meat, fish, and DNA samples for your own needs. But are Chefs responsible for that? Would you rather just deal with making pets for CH's with real specific needs (AR1, 55% kinetic, 10k HAM, Dizzy, KD special attacks, Ranged, CL70 non aggro skin, 100k right?).

Padre

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This reminds me of an old joke. A company has an expensive piece of equipment that is not working. They call in an old engineer to see if he can fix it. The engineer looks over the piece of equipment for a minute, walks up to it and whacks it with his fist in a certain spot. The machine starts working.

The engineer sends the company a bill for $50,000. The president of the company is shocked at the amount and asks the engineer to provide an explanationto justify such an outgareous charge for two minutes of work. The engineer sends back a reply: Hitting the machine $1. Knowing where to hit the machine $49,999.

If you can't come to a reasonable accomodation with a BE for additives or schematics try a different BE or improve your negotiation skills. But don't blame the BEs for using their hard-earned skills to make money. After all, that's what you're trying to do as a chef, right?

You're not paying the BE for the 3 or 4 minutes of their time. You're paying for their ability. If you value the BE profession so little why does the cost of your enhanced products go up so much?

You stand to make a killing of a schematic you would get for free. And yet you would complain about paying a fair marktet value for that schematic?

Message Edited by Spazzers on 03-11-2004 11:39 AM

I was never asked for a schematic until the chefs were fixed. Yes tissues are a HUGE part of a BE's income. Pet meds are listed under the tissue line. Tailor tissues sell well and at a good price.

Bio-engineers were not sitting around praying for the day SOE would fix chefs. We were not poor until the chefs came along either. A bio-engineer really doesn't have to make chef tissues at all in any way shape or form to become very wealthy.

As far as a profession being worthless I'm going to guess thefoodproducts you make are all free right? I mean its just a game and grinding chef was no big deal so the food items you create are just given away to anyone anytime right?

How does a schematic differ from any other product a bio-engineer make? That schematic has a value. That value is not zero.

Actually yes my products are free to people i know.Otherwise i dont sell them.

As a Chef,

If your BE is making you a schematic cheap, refuse to pay so little for something so valuable. If the schematic allows you to double the price of your product, make sure that your BE gets a real part of that difference. Of course schematics shouldn't cost what product costs; they don't entail any of the time and resource expenditure. They are, nevertheless, exceptionally valuable. If I was a BE, there is no way I'd let them go for free, or for atoken price.

Hero

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i can't see a BE making a 'career' out of making supplements. they take 50 hrs for a full schematic of mediums, and 58hrs for the heavies. they would have to quit making making pets and other things if they were to do this.

also, on my server anyway, BE Brandy prices are dropping. why? because it lasts so dam long. 1 crate will last a full week if you never log off and continually buff immediately after it wears off. seeing as how no one does that, customers basically will only be back once every 10-14 days, minimum, unless they are giving away from their supply. i prefer making Canape and other things that DON'T last for 45m and have so many uses. i sell crates of Bivoli for 250k. they move way faster than Brandy. my Accarragm has been moving faster as well, thanks to all the holo grinding entertainers who want that perpetual buff without finding a Doc all the time.

bottom line is, the more we get charged, the more you get charged. if people don't like brandy prices at 300k-400k per crate, QUIT BUYING IT. prices will drop if the product doesn't sell.

No professions time is worth anything to me in this game.First its a game, second you were gonna become the selected profession with or without our buisness.Third you can grind any profession out in a matter of days,BH is an exception that sucks to grind, but all others ar not hard.Fourth kind of like first you would spend your time playing this game either way so its not like you would stop playing it if you didnt get rich selling schematics.

BE's main priority was making schematics before the patch.They were happy doing there DNA sampling and making pets nowmost act like making schematics and additives is their life blood.

What I think is funny is how 75% or more of the Chef community disagrees with you Owesko.

It seems most people think that everyone should be compensated fairly. There are always going to be some *expletives* that try to get things for free - and there will probably always be one or two unsuspecting people that don't know what 30 seconds of their time is really worth. But by and large, we respect each other and both profit.

If your a Chef and have all the resources... there are many BE's on each server that will make the schematic for 100k or less.

If your a Chef and don't have all the resources.. there are many BE's on each server that will make the crates for you for 20k or more a crate.

If you think about it buying a crate of heavy tissues is going to cost 75K or more. Some sell cheaper but 75K is pretty typical. 1000 tissues will cost you 3 mil, againIn some cases more. Buying a schematic at 1/3 that price still saves you money even if you factor in the cost of your resources.

I'm not advocating selling a schematic for 1 mil but I will say you still save money by paying that much for one.