Chef Archive
Thread: what do you guys think of the BEs lastest movement?
ewokkillah wrote:
If you don't like the prices that the BE is charging, you still have choices. You can find another BE or become a BE yourself. I don't blame BEs at all for wanting to get a slice of the pie. I were a BE, I would never sell a schematic. I would be happy to buy all the materials from you at market rates and then sell you back the crates of tissues. When a BE sells a schematic for cheap rates, they are seilling themselves short and not being compensated for all the skill points they used to get there.
I agree completely (although I would say probably a few months.
ewokkillah wrote:
I understand where the BE is coming from. Did I mention that I was a tailor when this same fight was going on with the armorsmiths? In that case, armorsmiths didn't even have the option to make anything without products from tailors. The fight was bitter and ugly at times but now it is a non-issue.Both sides adjusted and nobody mentions it anymore.
I expect the same thing to happen with BEs and chefs. Some BEs will make schematics and others won't. Chefs will have to find a source of BE tissues, make non-BE foods exclusively, or leave the profession all together. In a few weeks, this will be a non-issue too.
) But right now this is what I would call growing pains. "and some of them even want to boycott the sale of schematics so that we can no longer produce our own bio components. "
This strikes me as quite amusing, considering most players don't even bother to read these forums on a regular basis.
My friend who has an MBE altwas totally oblivious to any debate whatsoever. As a matter of fact, when I asked him if she would mind making me some supplements, she said "How bout I make you a schematic, since I don't want to have to deal with all of that cr@p".
And to think I didn't even ask for fear of offending him. Just goes to show, the forumsconstitute onlysmall microcosm of the opinions of the players on each server.
Cyene
WHy BE's are whining... most BE's are creature crafters, this whole 'make me a schematic' thing is new to them because there's a much higher demand for the nutrients than there ever was for clothing enhancements.
Now these pet crafters have 0 clue about gathering resources... so they're thinking 'That chef is charging 250k for a crate of Vasarian brandy' instead of 'Whats my profit margin on a crate of nutrients'. I sell Medium for 20k (I gather ALL my resources, heavy for 25k. I MIGHT go 25k for medium and 30k for heavy. But remember, it depends on the server.. On Corbantis I'm not the only one selling for aroudn 20k/crate. And its quality stuff, 83-85 nutrition. As for schematics. *I* won't sell a chef a schematic, because I'm selling the product... And why on EARTH would a Chef wanna tie up ANOTHER factory making the nutrients when they have to make the alcohol, additives, casks, etc?? you really wanna add in one more item you have to run through YOUR factories?
Find a BE that charges a REASONABLE price and buy their product.. if you wanna go cheap, give 'em the resources and let 'em run it through THEIR factory.. but give 'em honest business... if someone charges too much, find another BE...
some people may not like ur opinion, but from what I've read, u seem like you know what ur talking about on many levels...I respect that.
I guess Chefs could sell their schematics to BE's? If ya wnat to be in the schematic business that is? I mean it is easier to get some gemstone and flora than the meat really?
Hmmm,
I'm a Master BE, and I share a high level (non-Master) Chef alt with a friend. Most of my food addtives go to the alt, but I do sell addtional crates and tissues to Guildmates and Referrals when I have the time and resources. Here are my (personal) issues related to some of the above:
- I can't justify paying the super high prices for meat on my server, so I harvest my own or rely on friends. This keeps resource supply low, but my prices low (Medium crate for 25k) as well.
- The above problem could be solved by giving you a schematic to use your own materials, but I worked my BUTT off to Master BE. I know Chef is not easy, so please understand the BE is no cake walk either. What the heck would be the right price to charge for just my skills to make a schematic? I've done this ONCE for somebody who was referred to me. After haggling with him about the price I just gave him the darn thing but swore to never do it again. Sorry, but I didn't feel right about it and felt I was hurting the entire BE profession by doing so. My chef doesn't expect Trim schematics, and I don't expect Powerup schematics for my guns. You're not getting my schematics, sorry.
- The difference between BE'd and non BE'd food is substantial. If you boycott BE addtives, somebody else won't and will rake in the sales. A boycott is not your solution.
Best solution that I can offer is obtain the resources needed (specifically meat), sell them to the BE at a decent price, and expect to pay slightly over that for the tissues returned to you. People that provide me with meat get their orders faster than those who don't, but I've still got too much business, I don't want to craft 24/7, but I don't want to just give away my skills either.
Sorry, but hope that gives you an understanding of where this BE is coming from at least.