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Thread: Hanging up my chef hat

Killtacular
Fri Feb 13, 2004 2:26 pm
#14


Jmpmstr...who are you...


I have been posting on these boards since release, and I know who are the "long time" Chefs.....you know...the ones actually responsible for the recent revamp (in addition to SirVimes of course).


I agree with Nikii 150%...these fly by night jerkwads make me sick cluttering up the boards with pointless ramblings...I can't wait til the combat revamp so they jump ship to the flavor of the month profession once again.


"i have been a chef from 2 months PRIOR to the patch so im not another ftom chaser as i was declared."


Didn't you mean to say youjust happen to get your ChefHolo 2 months prior....


Edit and apology for hijack: Bran, sorry to see you go. Hopefully the space expansion will kick this game in the rear a little.


Cyene

Message Edited by Cyene on 02-13-2004 04:21 PM

BranrStarkiller
Fri Feb 13, 2004 2:59 pm
#15






jmpmstr wrote:



I made a simple postfor a person who has to come tell other folks that he is taking ANOTHER leave of absence because he does not like the "star" wars part of this game.






"Another" leave of absence? Strange, I looked through my posts and didn't find a single post saying I was taking a first leave of absence, only a post announcing my Mastery back on Sept 24th. On the other hand, I checked your posts and Dec 30th, 6 weeks ago, you weren't even bothering listing any sort of chef in your sig; Master Architect, Master Artisan, DE 3004 and grinding, that's it.


I made my post to say farewell to my colleagues and friends here in the Chef forum, and didn't disparage over the new chef revamp, I only said that I wasn't willing to deal with the changes. To all those that are willing to carry on with the changes, I wish the best of luck.






jmpmstr wrote:



As for the stupid people comment please proof read your post or at least have a friend who is smarter then you proof them.






Okay,"i" should be capitalized in each instance of paragraph 2. Same paragraph, "im" should be I'm. Paragraph 4, the correct spelling is gratefully. "Several of individuals" should be "several individuals" in paragraph 4. "flaming thanks" should be "flaming, thanks".


Oh, and in the quoted sentence, the comma is your friend.



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Syke
Fri Feb 13, 2004 3:17 pm
#16

Branr...sorry to see you go


I'm in the same boat...I think I've achieved SOE's definition of casual play (an hour a day).


Take care fellow master





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Flenst
Fri Feb 13, 2004 3:23 pm
#17


I'm sort of torn with the whole direction this post has taken.


On the one hand, I think it's very sad when a long-time chef such as Branr leaves the game/profession.


On the other, as distasteful as jmpmstr's comment was, the criticism about that post had nothing to do with what he actually said, rather with his lack of participation on the forums.


As for myself, I've posted here infrequently to say the least. But I've been with the game since release, and have been a chef since September, Master since December. One of the things that I enjoyed about the profession was its openness to newcomers and that it wasn't a veterans-only club (compared with other profession boards), with those who post the most taking credit for everything and where no dissenting views are appreciated.


I've seen the "new chef" posts, too, so I know where the comments are coming from (and in many ways, I sympathize with those who criticize them), butI think that the direction to go is not to ostracize them for being new, but rather to bring them into the fold. Clicking twice, I found that that was jmpmstr's first post to the chef boards, and sadly, it was not a very good one. As bad an ice-breaker as that was, however, let's not use that as an opportunity to indict all new people who might be attracted to the profession.





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Killtacular
Fri Feb 13, 2004 3:48 pm
#18

Flenst, you are probably right that we were a bit harsh, especially considering the normal jovial nature of this forum.


But I personally feel my comments were lashing out not only at jmp, but at the general "status quo". The Chef forums these days look like the Jedi forums...all the really good work done by SirVimes, Kriles, and everyone else taking the time to provide the community with hard facts....well its getting lost in the shuffle. What is taking its place is "0mfg FISHAK IS GONE!!!! SOE MUST HATE US!!!"


I have not seen any posts where long time Chefs are saying these things (which the exception of the occasional holo-bashing), so I would bet they are just lashing out as I am, and this was just the proverbial straw.


Cyene

DenazsVil
Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:06 pm
#19

Honestly, I don't care if you are Lucas himself. Unless you post on the chef forum frequently, and seek to add insights into discussion, then you have no right to post anything that can my construed as flaming.


If you have 20 posts or some **edit**, then yes, despite what you may believe, you are NOT a contributing member of the chef forum; unless, of course, your 20 posts were made within a few days of making the account (or some other obvious exception).


Don't flame others if you know damn well that you are being snide, rude, or just plain idiotic.


Don't think that since you have been a X level of chef for Y amount of time grantsyou permission to ignore the basic codes of conduct i'm sure we all know.


cheers!


Justin Lightingstar, Master Chef for 20 YEARS before beta or something
jmpmstr
Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:15 pm
#20






Dig at every possible thing wrong in a post.this will be the forums down fall


Refering back to my orginal threadI simply said, "Good bye...more room for other chefs. Oh, dont forget to turn off the oven when you leave".


Where didI dig at the original poster? If BranrStarkiller took offense..my apologies. None were ever directed at you, more to the general community saying "I'm leaving" over and over then finding their posts later taking about how they just did this last night in game. Was there sarcasm in the comment...you bet! Tends be a natural reaction of those who become scheptimistic. And thank you for pointing out my gramatical errors in your response! I tend to learn from my mistakes, and can take the critisism as well asI dish. I also now understand why you chose to take a hiatius from playing.Good luck with what ever you choose to do


Nikii, You attack my post first with what reads to me is that he dislikes me. Don't know why he dislikes me, but fine it's his opinion!


Next Vishna calls me a rude little snot and thinks I am a ftom chef. How can you come to that conclusion? I dont post, therefore I am newb? Goodconclusion Vishna


Gerorb79, can't figure out how you determine I'm stupid. Did you score one of my IQ tests? Funny I never remember taking one for you.


Cyene, you make the attempt to imply that I'm a ftom chef also...how do you figure? Because I don't post to everything i read? Then you realize that your true intent of making a comment was directed at me and the "status qou". So now you make a comment like I did, that is intended more towards the majority of folks who participate in what I was being sarcastic about (ie posting about everything except for the topic). Kind of a double standard don't you think?


But the person to hit the nail on the head was Flenst, he caught on to how i was being criticized for not participating in posting to the forums, even though he disagreed with my comment. Thanks for seeing the point in which i was making a poor explanation of!!!!!!!! How can you flame someone for not holding the same opinion as you?


I think the overall feeling by those who read and/or post is the forums have become a griping areana/chat channel. If that is what i was looking for i would certainly be somewhere else. I truly enjoy this game (bugs and all) in all its vast concepts that are trying to be developed and played. I always look forward to thought out discussion for gameplay improvement and player interaction. The constant flaming and bashing of players that occurs in these forums will eventually lead to lack of relevant posting by other players who wish to help their fellow player. I think we are begining to see the down slope of this idea.


But those who are veteran players, you should be the first ones to notice this and should be holding yourself to a higher standard. Fighting flames with flames only creates a bigger, hotter fire.


I am done with this thread, and hope all a better game experience then a forum experience this was


jmpmstr, Master Artisan, Master Architect, Master DE (dropped), Master Chef (Never used a holo, had resources to buy :smileytongue

DiceDuP
Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:20 pm
#21

I have been a master chef for 4 weeks, hardly posted at all but read a lot of what goes on. I have contributed a few things these last few days since the patch on stats etc etc, but then i've only had the game for 6 weeks. On the server I play on, a lot of people know me as a chef who isn't doing it just coz a holo told me i had to, as most chefs I see are master chef one day, and novice something-or-other the next.


Just because I haven't been around long, or posted masses of posts doesn't mean that I can be classed as "not a part of the chef community". We are all a part of the SWG community, therefore whatever profession our character is, then we fragment into that part of it. If people decide to flame then that's their choice, I don't condone it, but then I tend to just skip through any non informative replies and not comment. Maybe this is why I don't have so many posts. Although I felt to reply to this one.





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Liftie
Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:32 pm
#22

I can't keep up with demand for the new brandy, and I'm only making it with large glasses and no bio additives and making a killing.


Very few chefs will be using bio stuff for mass productions and those who do will price their stuff so high you will always have a good market for quality foods w/o enhancements.


BTW I'm running 12 factories right now, and I can't keep my vendor stocked.



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DashZero
Fri Feb 13, 2004 7:45 pm
#23

Look...you guys talking about sales.. Thats not what we are talking about. It doesnt matter if you sold 100000000 crates of brandy today and made 5000 trillion gazillion credits. We are talking about being able to take pride in your final product. With all the products being forced to be almost identical to each other, for those of us who used to take pride in making good food, that part of the game is gone. There is no best food, its all the same. It may as well be making spice with 30 extra steps. Your sales arent a part of the picture. Sales and orders seem to be the only thing you guys can talk about it. No offense, but if thats what you think chef is about great, more power to you. But what does your sales exactly have to do with the ability of ones self being able to make a product that is known for better quality than most?


As for whatever your name was, Im too lazy to hit back and look it up, no I didnt imply that he didnt like you. I dont know who he likes...nor do I have a foggy clue who you are as youve never shown your face here before. My comment was directed to you being very rude irregardless of whether you know it or not. He made not even a whiney post saying he was leaving and you come in with good, get lost dont let door hit you in the a** on the way out that just leaves more for me and you think thats not rude? Are you serious? I think you might need to polish up on your communication skills if you think you werent being rude. Me, well I know Im rude at times and I readily admit it. Of course 90% of the time its in response to garbage like this.



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Oofa
Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:27 pm
#24

sorry to hear that your leaving....


I've been a chef ever since the 2nd month of the game, but haven't been master till about december...


I know, no one knows me since i hardly ever posted, but... once again sorry to hear that your leaving, and i think i might be also in a coupleof days too



Ack-Dum


It's sad seeing all the real Master's leave while everyone else comes and considers that they're "Master Chefs".


Hehe, you must have good eyes if your reading this!!!!
BothanMaestro
Sat Feb 14, 2004 6:49 am
#25

This is the saddest post I've ever read.


Not because someone is frustrated with the direction their chosen career has taken, but because of their inability to adapt to change.


SWG is just a game, but it is a reflection of how you choose to respond "realistic" situations.


This is not a flame and no sarcasm is intended in this post, but you seem very conflicted with comments like;


"chef had been the only thing that had really kept my interest in the game"


and


"I guess I kept waiting for the "Star" part of Star Wars to appear"


I think you may be expecting too much to get the "Star" experience from Chef.


I quit chef early in my career because it is the least "Star Warsey" profession in the game.

On the other hand, things are really cooking RP-wise for my non-combative negotiator, the new publish has me flooded with people changing sides and buying FP...


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Nahualli
Sat Feb 14, 2004 7:48 am
#26

Yeah, I guess that sorta confused me also... how Star Wars did you expect Chef to be? I don't remember any famous SW chefs or anything that even vaguely alluded to chefs or food in SW. It's a totally un-star wars profession overall so that part has me scratching my head.


There is a lot of resentment in this thread tho... a lot of elitists also. *shrug* I wasn't playing since release, oh well... Im not a holo grinder tho.. and frankly as a new Master Chef I find you older Chefs' behavior annoying. It's very possible and likely you helped shaped the class to what it is today.. so instead of embracing that, you're sitting back and bitterly bitching about the loss of quality in the profession? Is that what you worked so hard for? Or are you now going to say this isn't what you wanted all along?


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