Chef Archive
Thread: Bivoli again
Emalie
Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:17 pm
#14
At 2478 credits cost to me to make BE Bivoli, I am not sure really how to charge for the stuff without people getting crazy. 100K per crate ok if I do not sell any single stacks. Otherwise a flat 4K per stack of 2. Well, I can make it and if nobody wants it, it can sit on my vendor.
Jihadic
Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:06 pm
#15
Delii wrote:
if im a master doc with +25 WT bio clothing, will Bivoli still work? or there is a cap on this?
thanks
No cap. Bivoli seems to work. We'll know for sure after the next publish when the doc buffs are no longer random 
jeditao
Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:20 pm
#16
GeminiMoon wrote:
Does the base duration last 15 minutes no?
Why not spend 3-5 experience points after nutrietion into quantity? It will give an overall better duration (3*15=45 mins or 2*19=38mins)
If your base duration is 15 min than it makes sense to invest into quantity. But if it's 13 min I'd rather experiment on duration because I want the docs to be able to enjoy the effect of Bivolis consistently.
Killtacular
Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:23 pm
#17
"Why not spend 3-5 experience points after nutrietion into quantity? It will give an overall better duration (3*15=45 mins or 2*19=38mins)"
Not sure I understand you comment....where do you get the 19 mins from?
Base with 118nanonutrients is +17.8 for 14m 48s....full nutritionexp is 25.5....meaning it would be sub-22 for the buff if only 5 points used...which imho defeats the purpose of medium nutrients.
Cyene
GeminiMoon
Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:51 pm
#18
Depends what your working with. Make your schematics in a Research Center and wait for a few amazing successes. Also if you have +20 food experimentation you can play around a bit more. I got 19 minutes from the ones i made...where else would it come from?
I was emphazing the fact that your better off adding more into quanitity than into duration because you end up getting more time with more quantity. Who cares if you have to double click again on the food to get the extra use...I don't think anyone is that lazy
Ankor
Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:00 pm
#19
jeditao wrote:
GeminiMoon wrote:Does the base duration last 15 minutes no?
Why not spend 3-5 experience points after nutrietion into quantity? It will give an overall better duration (3*15=45 mins or 2*19=38mins)
If your base duration is 15 min than it makes sense to invest into quantity. But if it's 13 min I'd rather experiment on duration because I want the docs to be able to enjoy the effect of Bivolis consistently.
From the conversations I've had with docs, duration is pretty unimportant on this one. No doc I talked to was interested in keeping this buff going non-stop, and that's before I hit them with the price. They just want to be under it while they're buffing, so the difference between 13 and 15 minute duration is really a non-issue. They want the third use (but will happily buy Bivoli with two) and they want a big buff. Filling and duration are of little import.
Killtacular
Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:35 pm
#21
"Also if you have +20 food experimentation you can play around a bit more. I got 19 minutes from the ones i made...where else would it come from?"
Ok, thats what I was missing. I can see how you can get a decent buff and the 19 minute duration with 12 exp points, but not sure its possible to get that duration, decent buff, and stacks of 3.
My comment wasrelated tonot understanding how you went from stack of 2 for 19 to stack of 3 for 15....my stacks of 2 rarely go above 16 mins when experimenting for nutrition. Obviously you are putting some points in flavor...I only saw the reference to quantity...
Cyene
GeminiMoon
Mon Mar 08, 2004 5:44 pm
#23
svin wrote:
What is a research center?
A research Center is a Player City mod. It gives a +15% chance of gettnig "an amazing success:
A Manufacturing Center gives a 10% reduction of a "critical failure" occuring
Delii
Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:28 am
#24
if im a master doc with +25 WT bio clothing, will Bivoli still work? or there is a cap on this?
thanks
MuttonJedi
Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:02 pm
#26
I'm charging 250k per crate for my +25, 3 use bivoli. I've sold 6 crates since yesterday, so I don't expect to drop the price any time soon.
I used 2 experimentation points to get the 3 uses, at 37% quantity. Also decent meat, exceptional vegetables and a 116 nanonutrient.
Mutton
I used 2 experimentation points to get the 3 uses, at 37% quantity. Also decent meat, exceptional vegetables and a 116 nanonutrient.
Mutton