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Thread: Bivoli again

Gracchus
Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:22 am
#1

Just started a 40crate run of +20 wt. 16min 2use 28filling and was originally going to charge 130k per crate. But its only 2use. Are you guys getting more uses. Btw I used the broad spectrum for this.
Jihadic
Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:28 am
#2

I think someone said they got 3, but I think you have to spend a ton of exp points on the quantity to get that :/.



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sciguyCO
Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:51 am
#3

It looks like you have to experiment quantity up to 50% to get a third dose. Not really worth it, in my opinion. Even with excellent DR/PE resources, that takes at least 4 or 5 points. Although if you can get your hands on some cheap Yeast supplements, Bivoli might be a good candidate.





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Gracchus
Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:57 am
#4

What are your thoughts on pricing?
Grisbane
Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:12 am
#5

I make +23 wt, 3 use bivoli. It isnt that difficult at all. Its all about the resources you use.


If you use crap resources, you will get crap bivoli. Simple as that







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Gracchus
Sat Mar 06, 2004 8:48 am
#6

no kidding? wow great info thanks
GalacticHustler
Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:31 am
#7

+24 3 uses but only 15.2 min duration



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Opar
Sat Mar 06, 2004 7:41 pm
#8

pls post resources and nutrients used to get this? 115 or 116 intelligent nanonutrient?


stats on the resources?


Befishburger
Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:08 pm
#9






sciguyCO wrote:

It looks like you have to experiment quantity up to 50% to get a third dose. Not really worth it, in my opinion. Even with excellent DR/PE resources, that takes at least 4 or 5 points. Although if you can get your hands on some cheap Yeast supplements, Bivoli might be a good candidate.







Got the 3rd use with only two boxes experimented, Kriles. Was using the super-duper fungus currently growing on Chilly / Corellia and meat with high DR.


Usual conundrum ... using the yeast means topping out at +12 healing. That difference between +12 and +24 healing might be more than double. I noticed with the veghash that unenhanced was giving me almost nobouns to animal harvasting, but that with the +82% additive, getting the skill buff up over +30, I was getting a 20% bonus on harvests... enough to make the food really worthwhile.



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jeditao
Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:50 pm
#10

I told a doc who regularly orders bivoli and other stuff from that I can probably get 3 charges on them. He said: "If I were you I'd stay with 2 charges. More sales". I guess he doesn't care because he usually trades meat and good organics for food



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Ankor
Sun Mar 07, 2004 5:36 pm
#11

It takes me 3 exp bubles to get to 3 uses, and the net difference on my Bivoli's final stat is from +23 to +24.2. I think the 50% bonus to charges is a far bigger difference than the 1.2 (or was it 1.4? can't remember) boost to the skill.



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Emalie
Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:31 am
#12

This is one of those foods where it is hard for me to determine a price on it. It's not going to be cheap by any standard either. The cost is what is going to cause a lot of frustration. To make 1, it's 5x for the floras and then I bought some Carnivore Meat where all stats are 800+ for 30 cpu. I'm just waiting on heavy nutrition additives before making anything.



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Killtacular
Mon Mar 08, 2004 11:13 am
#13

This weekend I made some 118 Heavy Supps with the double 900 dath carnivoremeat on Chilastra, and the triple 900 fongi.


With the same ingredients, I made Bivoli with 25.5 WT, 14m 48s, 2 charges, 27 filling.


If I had 12 exp points, its quite possible with these ingredients to have same stats with charges of 3.


Either way, my base price on Bivoli is 100k a crate if its higher than 23 WT (regardless of charges), given the P.I.T.A. factor.


Though I do have a question for the Docs out there. Is there a market for +12-14 WTBivoli at say 1/2 the price? I am not going to waste the ingedients on it if it won't be used, obviously.


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