Chef Archive
Thread: Sorry, but I have to say this
Everyone can *consume* food, but not everyone can *use* medkits. Thus people need a doctor and some crates of food/spice/powerups. Doesn't mean they don't need Chefs at all.
Ophistes wrote:
Everyone can *consume* food, but not everyone can *use* medkits. Thus people need a doctor and some crates of food/spice/powerups.
The only combat players I see screaming nerfhereare the ones that will after the patch, not be able to put on 2 buffs andgp kill raid levelMOBsby spaming specals.
Staren wrote:
...What this redesign is doing is putting a stop to people playing beyond their skill levelby jacking up their stats to insane levels&button mashing. Ok thats my rant for the night.
Oops, you're going to be disappointed when you discover that we weren't quite that good.Did you mean to put this on the doc board? 
Sinister Chef #54w934287-F
Cadence73 wrote:
Adding my voice to the masses.
This change is great, it is exactly what we need.
The smart player are going to realize that our buffs are now unique, and very useful.
If we can't buff stats very much anymore, that only means that we don't have the compeition from other classes like we did before, we only have competition from other Chefs....That's how it should be.
This is a huge change, Chef is going to be almost nothing like it was before...isn't that what we wanted?
You will not have any compeition in its currant form on test as I and many others see 90% of the new foods for what they, are just fillers, good for that situatoin where they might provide me theMARGINAL advantage in PVP but the truth is I dont PVP that much maybe 4-5 times a day tops withmy MBH who always travels overt.
All this will do is let me purchase a few crates of stuff that will last me a month or 2 and force me to get docs buffs. That 3 or 4 crates of stuff so that i have one of each of the good ones will last at least a month where my currant crates of foods i usualy burn a crate every few days of each of the stuff i carry with me.
Ona positive note i am starting to see the benifits to this new patch, I will have done every one of the combat profs by the time ti nerf hits with the exception, of pikeman which just doesnt seem interesting to me, and this is as good a promt as any to after i finish them all up go to either Doc/tailor( the only crafting prof aside chef i havent tried out) so I can keep myother toon and friends buffed up with the only viable set of buffs in the game or go back to weaponsmithing and add slicing 4 to it.
)...Sorry about that.
Cadence73 wrote:
To the poster above me (I don't know how to quote
You you said Me, My, or I 16 times in that post (I think, it's a rough #). I think that you are only thinking of the way this revamp will affect you. There is nothing wrong with that of course, this isn't a flame. When I am reading something I will usually think about that affects me first, then others later. My point is that if you get 1000 people together, you will find 1000 opinions on any subject.
You may not like this revamp. You may not take the time to find out that at first glance, "fillers" will have their use.
The image of the chef making crates and crates of things for people is the old image.
This revamp allows for people to buy one stack of the stuff that would be used infequently. They can buy crates of stuff they think they will use more often.
Imagine, pay 4000-6000 credits, and get ten different stacks of food. When you need that little extra dodge boost, or that short incap time, or that terrain negotiation, you've got it right there.
It was never meant for a Chef to be forced to run multiple factories to meet demands. This revamp is going to make for a more healthy economy.
As a Chef, with four factories,I can make 1 million credits every 4 days, assuming my crates and crates sold, which they usuallydid.That was with me logging in for maybe 45 minutes a day. One person isn't supposed to make credits that fast. Show me one combat profession where you can make 1 million credits for 3 hours of work, consistantly.
Wow, I rambled
Basically, this revamp is giving Chef's more variety, and less focus, which is exactly what we need. Am I going to make less money? A lot less, yes. Is it worth it to get rich slower but have a lot more items that do different things? Hell yes.
I think you are probably talking to me and not the other person who rudly inturup[ed your post
There is a PVP aspect to this game but is is far inferor to most PVP online games so it is a subset of this game in keeping with the GCW that should be ongoing.
There is a crafting aspect to this game and i know someting about it haveing mastered 2 of them as my 3rd and 4th Elite profs back in Aug playing them for several months but this part of the game is simply a fun way to give players the optoin to make stuff to support the first 2 styles of play along with the RP that can form a foundation for all 3.
Having done some of each and currantly veiwing these changes primarily from the standpoint of the largest group of players, as determined by SoEs poll, Ifeel that lends some credence to my views. *shurg* youhowever are more than welcome to disagree as not everyone can always be correct
BTW to quote click the reply button beside the post you are responding too and then when the message block pops up click on the white cartoon style text box nest to the smily face
What I object to is nerfing an ability in anticipation of a rebalance thats months in the future.
I like to spam specials bodyshot2 in full composite while using a powerup doesn't drop my ham while im on boh and 2 ryshcate which is nice.
The thing is i will still be able to do this now ill just have to get my buffs from others rather than my food.
Adding my voice to the masses.
This change is great, it is exactly what we need.
The smart player are going to realize that our buffs are now unique, and very useful.
If we can't buff stats very much anymore, that only means that we don't have the compeition from other classes like we did before, we only have competition from other Chefs....That's how it should be.
This is a huge change, Chef is going to be almost nothing like it was before...isn't that what we wanted?
Cyene wrote:
It is somewhat interesting to me that anyone would complain about HAM costs, since that is one of the main focuses of the upcoming combat rebalance. It would seems prudent that the Chef buff changes would have to be designed with the rules of the new system in mind.
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I would agree with you if either the new combat rebalance we being released at the same time as these changes, or if there was at least a forecast of when the rebalance will be done.
It's like this to me: Let's say I live in an area that doesn't have digital cable TV. The company calls me up and says "Guess what, we're going to be upgrading the service in your area to digital sometime". So I say that's great. Then they say "Oh, and by the way, we are replacing your cable box with a digital cable box." Again, I say that's great. Then they say "Oh, by the way, until the service is upgraded, you'll only be able to get 5 channels - but, you've got this great new box."
Yes, I may begetting something new and exciting that is based on newer and better technology, but until all the infrastructure is in place to support it, I would have been better off with my old cable box.
I think the changes to Chef are interesting and exciting, but I see the point that many are making here - since the new buffs are based on a combat system that isn't out there yet, they appear to be worse than what people already have. I'm sure that once the new system is in place, the new buffs will make sense and be just as in-demand as the current ones, but the lag time between these two events is what is causing the distress, I think.
It's like this to me: Let's say I live in an area that doesn't have digital cable TV. The company calls me up and says "Guess what, we're going to be upgrading the service in your area to digital sometime". So I say that's great. Then they say "Oh, and by the way, we are replacing your cable box with a digital cable box." Again, I say that's great. Then they say "Oh, by the way, until the service is upgraded, you'll only be able to get 5 channels - but, you've got this great new box."
That is probably the best analogy I have read yet for this revamp. Any way we could get SirVimes to get this to TH and see his response? I am still hoping that we will get dev communication on the purpose of our early revamp, but maybe this would spark something.