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Thread: Hmm people re-selling your goods
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CaraAnam
Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:49 pm
#14
Hmm well i suppose i shouldn't care.....really.....and actually i dont care what people do with my food once it's bought.....the problem is i am new to chef......it's hard starting out yanno? I make a few foods well....up to almost par with the +12 chefs (which i will never be.....who the heck can afford +5 million credits for a skill tape)......any my problem mostly with it is unless someone is a crafter (and a crafter who cares about their products) they dont really understand the time and money it takes in finding the best resources to make a good product that people actually want to buy (yes i know i am preaching to the choir here people). I had one incident i know of where someone was buying and reselling my products...they kept clearing me out of 2 foods in particular......i keep my prices on the lower end to try and get a good client based est. (and cuz my food isn't the BEST of the BEST i dont think it's fair to charge people full price), so i can't really raise them, but at the same time i hate having my vendor emptied out on me. Anyhow i just wondered what you all thought about this issue...thank you for your responses......i am going to try and not care so much lol!
Guhaun_Havard
Sat Aug 21, 2004 5:09 am
#15
I have done this beforenot for profit or anything cause everyone knows the best chef on our server, but best doesn't come cheap...but i use his stuff anyway I did a guild special, I put his brandy on my vendor for 1 credit per 18 stk just for my guildies cause I was in need of merchant xp and this was my gift to them, they could take it all as long as they spaced it out to every 15 minutes
BTW I am having a blast as a chef /cheers
Higginsis
Sat Aug 21, 2004 6:37 am
#16
I really do think some miss the point of why some people get up set, you get paid sure but alot of chefs aren't in this just for the money, alot of people like to provide a reliable service. And when someone clears you out to resell its hard to provide that service.
And as someone also said, it sucks when people make money off the back of your work.
And as someone also said, it sucks when people make money off the back of your work.
haala
Sat Aug 21, 2004 11:25 pm
#17
I used to not mind, because I madea niceprofit over the long run by selling so manycrates at a time.
But it became too much work in the end to try to provide product to other cantina owners/resellers AND keep my own vendors stocked. It really turned into a 2nd job, and a factory Mcjob at that.
When I returned froma 2-monthbreak, I decided to raise my prices enough that it would still be reasonable to buy from me individually, but not worth it for a reseller. As a result things sell slower but I'm able to enjoy the game so much more now!
If there is someone cleaning out your vendor only to resell and you don't want them to do it..... well there is an alternative to just raising your prices, although it's a more drastic alternative. You can ban them from your shop.
An AS friend of mine who sells quality armor very cheaply has signs posted all over his shop not to buy more than one suit of composite at a time from his vendor, and he bans anyone who violates his rule. He does this because he wants to charge a low price, but doesn't want one person coming in and cleaning out his whole inventory.
That's not something I've ever done personally, but I thought I'd mention it in case that would help in your situation.
Hope that helps!
Haala
Balin76
Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:54 am
#18
haala wrote:
An AS friend of mine who sells quality armor very cheaply has signs posted all over his shop not to buy more than one suit of composite at a time from his vendor, and he bans anyone who violates his rule. He does this because he wants to charge a low price, but doesn't want one person coming in and cleaning out his whole inventory.
And here's how people get around it.... The person who wants several suits, so that he can attempt to get the slices that he wants, rounds up several of his friends. He goes in, buys his suit, and then gives the money to his buddies, and they each buy a suit. They then trade the bags to the first guy. He still gets his 5 suits of armor, and no one gets banned.
There was a WS on my server at one time, who had a limit of 2 of any type of weapon at any one time. The prices weren't cheap, but they had good stuff. One of my guildies did the above. While I can understand "wanting to keep a well stocked vendor" I also understand the concept of supply and demand. If you've got some of those factors backwards (low price of a high demand item) it's going to sell, and sell fast.
One of my guildies is a reseller. He's got a degree from one of the top business schools in the US. He was banned from a shop for reselling. If I remember right, no warning, not signs posted, just banned. He still buys from this shop. He has friends go into the building, and tell him what's on the vendor, and for how much. He'll then /tip the money in. Want to here the ironic part? He doesn't resell this stuff. He uses it for himself.
I typically try to price my foods at a price that reflects the time and credits I had to put into them. If a reseller thinks that he can get more, bully for him. 
I got what I wanted. And I get plenty of special orders.
ImCreepy
Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:53 pm
#19
this is business, if u want to sell at a price people feel they can resell higher then good for them and u shouldnt be mad u made your margin. I use to do that when i lack some food in my vendor. I dont care about they tag with price and stuff on the name. U know a name with example 40k on it u just split the crate and u get a 40k price u want.
I would love to see someone come and buy all the items in my shop, that would make me richer faster.
Ladrones
Samca
Mon Aug 23, 2004 3:49 pm
#20
Higginsis wrote:
I really do think some miss the point of why some people get up set, you get paid sure but alot of chefs aren't in this just for the money, alot of people like to provide a reliable service. And when someone clears you out to resell its hard to provide that service.
And as someone also said, it sucks when people make money off the back of your work.
Unfortunately, you're only looking at one side of the coin. The reseller is not just making money off your efforts, some of them are actually putting in quite an effort themselves. Although I don't resell myself, I know a couple people who, in effort to "diversify" the game and for some RP value, focus on reselling. They try to be very considerate, and not clear out vendors of specific things (although I have seen one of them once go on a massive spree... but did at least clear everything, and not just the 1 or 2 most popular products), try to set up a bulk ordering system with crafters where they can, and spend a VERY large amount of time scouring the galaxy to find the bet of the best products at the best of the best prices. They do this to provide a very valuable service to customers. The best products from all categories in one spot. They even run their shops with an RP setup as being "Importers", "Locators of exotic quality goods", etc.
They will fully admit to their customers that they are resellers (they don't want to take credit for someone else's craftsmanship), and they will give the name of the maker of the item, if known and asked. The only thing they won't give is the location of the shop they get it from, they politely ask that the customer put forth their own effort to find it, just as they had to.
Really, it's no different than any store that you purchase anything from. The store didn't make that item, yet they're profiting from it, is that wrong too?
Yes, I will admit, there are *bleep* out there who are really inconsiderate in the way they resell... taking credit for making the item, buying out the most profitable and popular items all the time and leaving the lower sellers, etc. but not all resellers are this way.
Please try to recognize that some resellers are out to provide just as good of an every bit as important, although slightly different, service to customers as you are.
CaraAnam
Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:53 am
#21
Samca...in that case...well that's WAY COOL ...and i have no problems with people doing that
and really i am over this whole topic now.....i sell my products for what i think they are worth...if someone turns around and resells making themselves a profit ...well good for them......i suppose i should just be happy that people think my stuff is good enough to buy eh?
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