Chef Archive
Thread: General Opinions, Complaints and Suggestions.
Shadarbane wrote:
But I still would have loved a nice little fridge(have to have somewhere to store my ice-cubes for the drinks)
I'd just like to have cupboards, tool boxes, and Storage containers actually store things. It can count towards house count. I hate the look of 8 backpacks hanging on the wall.
My concern will be the cost effectiveness of the foods, especially in concern with the drink containers. I did not get the time to fully explore the Domestic Arts foods (I'm not a chef, but my heart is with you) and only got to look at some of the components. But on my server, finding someone who sells gemstone at less than 4 cpu is pretty rare. It mostly goes at 6 cpu. So if I make a large glass at using 100 units of gemstone my base cost will be somewhere between 400-600 credits just for the GLASS. Most of my tailoring items, especially in the Dom Arts, sell for profit at under 600 credits. Maybe the low materials cost for tailoring is because there is no consumption of our product, but the materials cost for the food seems a bit high to me.
My concern about what I have read about the new patch are as follows. Any input would be appreciated.
Instead of simplifying our profession, they have made it vastly more complicated and time-consuming.
One of the tough things about being a Chef is that you need so many different resources to make your wares, even though less than ten sell well. However, we really are not dependent on other professions to make our products, except perhaps for thosewho specialize in gathering and reselling resources. It seems to me that with this patch, we will need more different resources than ever, and we will be more dependent than ever on other professions. As a result, instead ofspending 2-3 hours every night running between harvesters, food factories and my vendor, I will have to addtime running to even more different harvesters, more materials vendors, the bazaars on all the different planets, BE vendors andequipment factories. Also, instead of simplifying the manufacturing process,they have added a new subcomponent which we have to manufacture: containers. That's yet another step in the process and will add significantly to game time. Before these changes went in, I made a post specifically suggesting that I hoped the Chef profession was going to be made easier, and not more diffcult, with this patch. It seems that my hopes have been dashed.
I fear that what will happen is that Chefs will decide only to make a few different types of foods and drinks, as it will simply be too difficult and time consuming to produce a little of everything. This is a big mistake, in my opinion. It particularly hurts the casual gamer.
I strongly suggest that this issue be given serious consideration before this patch goes live. Here are changes that would seriously help:
1. Reduce the number of different resources required for the Chef profession by simply requiring "flora,""cereal," "seeds,"or "vegetables" in schematics, rather than specific things like "Corellian Wheat,""Tatooinian Fruit" or "Hydron-3 gas."
2. Make all containers able to be manufactured in food/chemical factories.
3. Reduce the number of subcomponents which have to be made. Instead of requiring 1 dough, 1 carbosyrup, 20 berries and 25 oats for a recipe, just require 40 oats and30 berries.
Please, don't make it harder andmore time-consuming to be a Chef. Make it easier and more fun so that we can experience other aspects of the game as well as our profession. Don't require Chefs to be powergamers. We casual gamers pay you just as much as powergamers do, and we take up far less of your resources.
If you ask me Chef just got ran over by a freight train...and it has been lost forever
This new system might make chef made food better and stronger in the long run but is it really worth it...
Unless you have nothing better to do maybe yes..but im dropping it as soon as the server reloads
LeilaniKirlia wrote:
I can not believe there is no wedding cake. I'm not too impressed with losing several of my customers' favorite recipes, even if they were silly and for RP. Wedding cake, Double Dip Outer Rim Rumdrop (for all the wannabe space pilots), and Sunburns are the most glaring omissions, and of course Fishak. I will reserve the rest of my judgement for when I see the effects of the rest of the schematics, but from what I am seeing so far, I am left wanting quite a bit more. I think the addition of two components to all drinks and one to all food is a little less than would be desired, I have trouble enough running the 6 factories I have nonstop without having to worry about even more components. And again, where is the wedding cake? I cater a lot of weddings, and this is just pretty insane to have the wedding cake, which didn't even do anything that they would have had to revamp, be removed. I know, it took me 72 actual slices and an hour of time to make one real wedding cake, but still! /rant off.
Leilani Kir'lia
THANK YOU! This is what i have been saying all along and getting ripped for i don't mind the changes and endles hours i hate depending on some a$$wipe to make me crates at 60k credits per crate because he knows i need them I hate ving to look for extremely good quality resourses which are already hard enough to get just to add more to my list, i hate not having my menu complete what is wrong with soe i wouldn't even complain if they had left my menu intact but lootable schematics? come on give me a brake this bites i'm a 100% crafter i can't kill anyting you dimwits i get killed by kreetles and that is fine with me but what the heck i can't even cater anything now with out renaming my food which i hate doing I AM NOT COOKING FOR ANYONE BUT MY GUILD NOW BECAUSE I HATE THE CHANGES SO BAD AND THEY HAVE OFFICIALLY MADE ME HATE CHEF AND JUST ABOUT ALL POSER CHEFS WHO HAD IT AS MEANS TO ROLEPLAY A LOST ART IN A GAME THAT WAS MADE FOR THAT SAME POURPOSE JUST TO BE UBER AND MAKE $$$ WHICH BLOWS.
Vodokar wrote:
Hey! I'm Trandosian. And I know a lot of other Trandosians.
Granted, this isn't something that would help everyone. But its definetly something that I would use and something i'll keep stocked on the vendor, assuming its actually any good.
We have so many different schematics, why can't there be one specific to each race that is thier favorite? What harm is there in that? I don't follow your reasoning that somehow they did a bad thing here.
I HATE THIS CHANGES CONGRATS ON GETTING DOSH ONLY FOOD BUT THAT BLOWS
starkaste wrote:
If you ask me Chef just got ran over by a freight train...and it has been lost forever
This new system might make chef made food better and stronger in the long run but is it really worth it...
Unless you have nothing better to do maybe yes..but im dropping it as soon as the server reloads
YOU AND ME BOTH I HATE THIS DUMB CHANGES THERE GOES ALL MY FUN AND ROLEPLAYING DUE TO DUMB SOE .... I WOULDN'T EVEN BE SO UPSET HAD THEY NOT TAKEN AWAY 1/4 OF MY MENU AWAY I WANT IT BACK THE WAY IT WAS I HATE SOE AND THEIR DUMB CONSTANT 24/7 BETA GAME. I'M SOOOOOOOOOOO GOING TO FFXI NOW THEY TOTALY SCREWED UP THIS TIME AND BTW MY 5 ACCOUNTS ARE GOING WITH ME ALONG WITH MY 15 FRIENDS WHO ALSO HAVE ALTS.
Not sure if this was mentioned already or not, tried to keep up with the posts but just to many of them lol. Unsure if this is the same for others or just a bug for me, but in schematics and crafting on chef food it doesn't say a thing about what the foods do now like it used to give the % stats for mind and health or whatever to give you an idea. Kind of annoying having to draw up the notepad every time to figure out what does what. And on a side note, learned the hard way that the notepad does have a text limit, lost half my notes copying in the new chef stats lol.
Inaky, you're either way over-reacting, or the best forum troll impersonator I've ever seen. The all-caps, misspellings, and posting areply to any thread on the front page (whether your comments are pertinent to the topic or not)are common troll indicators, as is announcing 6 months of chef experience with a 5 month old registration date. I think this:
MY 5 ACCOUNTS ARE GOING WITH ME ALONG WITH MY 15 FRIENDS WHO ALSO HAVE ALTS
may have been a little too over-the-top. Anyone managing 5 separate account couldn't possibly have friends, let alone 15 of them. You want to keep each separate message plausible. Only after reading through a bunch of your replies should it start dawning on people that no one can be this monumentally clueless and still remember to breathe.
The Ice cream complaint was a nice touch, especially since you emphasized the role-playing uses, pre-emptively defusing any "Use Ahrisa you nitwit" responses.
All in all, I give you a 6/10 for technique, 9/10 for artistic flair.
InakyMahalo wrote:
starkaste wrote:
If you ask me Chef just got ran over by a freight train...and it has been lost forever
This new system might make chef made food better and stronger in the long run but is it really worth it...
Unless you have nothing better to do maybe yes..but im dropping it as soon as the server reloads
YOU AND ME BOTH I HATE THIS DUMB CHANGES THERE GOES ALL MY FUN AND ROLEPLAYING DUE TO DUMB SOE .... I WOULDN'T EVEN BE SO UPSET HAD THEY NOT TAKEN AWAY 1/4 OF MY MENU AWAY I WANT IT BACK THE WAY IT WAS I HATE SOE AND THEIR DUMB CONSTANT 24/7 BETA GAME. I'M SOOOOOOOOOOO GOING TO FFXI NOW THEY TOTALY SCREWED UP THIS TIME AND BTW MY 5 ACCOUNTS ARE GOING WITH ME ALONG WITH MY 15 FRIENDS WHO ALSO HAVE ALTS.
Bye, we don't need whiners in the game anyway
It's a shame that people suddenly start screaming about stuff they don't know anything about. As I stated in your other thread, we've talked about this for a long time, and if you just checked the forum so you could rant, goodbye. Don't need ya.