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Thread: We have more that the Tatooine Sunburn

Garamond
Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:51 pm
#1

OK I broke down and looked at the big book o chef foods.



Didnt really want to because I like to be suprised but I was curious just how badly out of whack we are.



After loking at it I have come to teh following conclusions



Mixology 1 (broke)


Mixology 2 (broke) includeing the tat sunburn. way too powerful for where it is


mixology 3 Ice blaster looks nice but more along the lines of something Id want to see on mixology 1. (broke)


Mixology 4 decent but way too far up the tree for the amount of buffs. (misplaced)


entree 1 Borderline until you look at the duration. (broke)


entree 2 (misplaced) not too bad. maybe entree 1 Ormacheck looks nice. I could sell it


entree 3 (broke) to little for where it is and I'm already putting entree 2 in the 1 slot


entree 4 (Good) It could use some work especially when compared to the tat sunburn but nice recipies except for Braised Canron


Deserts 1 Broke at first glance and prolbalbly just underpowered but nothing there will sell ever No money to be made here (not broke but bad)


Desert 2 Similar story with 1. Dweezel might sell but its a pathetic buff for this level. they all are. (broke)


Desert 3 not bad. Ryshcate looks good. kinda low powered across the board. prolly needs to goto desert 1 (misplaced)


Desert 4 Not too bad. some odd choices here like Vagnerian Canape. The rest arent bad but should prolblablyy be in desert 2 and MAYBE 3 (misplaced)


Master


Thakitillo: Isnt bad but at this level I wodner why I'm just now getting it (misplaced)


Flameout: looks good at first but it has no practical use. especially when mind stims are not available. Mind pool is at a premium in combat. possibly good for doctors or other professions who have high mind but low health. (misplacedand a odd choice of buffs and nerfs)


Breath of Heaven: not bad but similar to Thakitillo. (misplaced)


Angerian Fishak Surprise: kind of the oppisite of Flameout which makes it good for the same reason flameout isnt. This can sell. I've never heard of anyone lacking action pool only problem is its way too far up(Good but misplaced)



Anyway Im sure many of you already knew this. but I have always wondered why everyone says only tat sunburn sells. Maybe its all that sells for uber money but its not ll that sells. there are alot of good buffs here even if they are in the wrong spots.



This profession needs some TLC from the devs but please dont think it is all bad. It will help us deal with the devs if we look at our proffesion from the waht is good standpoint and says "This is more along the lines of what we want. To that end Here is what I think we should be in the trees



Novice. +100 boosts to 1 or more stats. Not every food needs to be overwhelming but it should at the very least be as good as the best of the previous. in this case DA 4


line 1 +150-+300 durations should be getting longer here not shorter. the massive boosts should be shortlived but it needs to be balanced. dont boost mind by 400 for 60 seconds. by the time you heal it up you lose it.


line 2 +300-500. again durations should be pretty decent


line 3 +500-800


line 4 +800-1200


master +1200+ with durations up near the 10 minute level if not more



This is ust my opinion on what should be. If other chefs have different ideas please post here what you think is more in line with the different trees. I am kind of biased agaisnt anything that lowers mind focus and willpower so those with a different point of view please post your view and why. To me until a doctor can heal mind damage it is crucial your mind be in its best possible condition.






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J2xC
Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:14 pm
#2

My main sales come from:


Tatooine sunburn,
corellian fried icecream,
vercupti of agazza boleruuee


I also sell:


Thakitillo, flameout, angerian fishak surprise, ormachek, veronian berry wine, and a few other things.


I dont sell anything at a rate of under 10cpu, and make between 15-30 cpu on most stuff. I make a steady profit.




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Foodist
Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:26 pm
#3

Other than the sunburns, Veronian Berry Wine, Durindfire, and (for some reason) Synthsteak sell pretty well for me. Nobody orders them in bulk but they do sell fairly regularly. I just picked up Entrees 2 and expect Ormachek, Trimpian, and possibly Veghash to sell.
J2xC
Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:36 pm
#4

Veghash sells. You can eat 2 of em for about +350 to each regen stat. That nearly doubles most peoples regen, so it makes a good downtime reducer. I often use it myself, and just forgot to list it



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fatgit
Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:15 am
#5

"Novice. +100 boosts to 1 or more stats. Not every food needs to be overwhelming but it should at the very least be as good as the best of the previous. in this case DA 4

line 1 +150-+300 durations should be getting longer here not shorter. the massive boosts should be shortlived but it needs to be balanced. dont boost mind by 400 for 60 seconds. by the time you heal it up you lose it.

line 2 +300-500. again durations should be pretty decent

line 3 +500-800

line 4 +800-1200

master +1200+ with durations up near the 10 minute level if not more"



I tried posting almost the EXACT same suggestion on another thread lastnight but the boards went haywire & I gave up

To me, that is the ideal structure, and your figures are within +-50 of what I thought of.

As far as sales go, on Tarquinas hardly anyone even realises what food does, never mind buying it.
I mainly make food for PA members, and I have sold less than 20k/cr of food in a month until yesterday when I got an order for 30k/cr of sunburn. My income comes from missions & PA members.
J2xC
Tue Aug 12, 2003 4:34 am
#6

The stats posted above are what I'd expect to get once the identical components bug, and the duration bugare fixed. Thakitillo is already +1000 for 10 minutes. Since it doesn't get affected by the identical components bug, I'd say the ones that need identical components(and thus more effort) should be a bit better, and quite possibly hit that +1200 for 10 minutes at master.



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Liv_Traisharan
Tue Aug 12, 2003 5:03 am
#7

I can't keep Ormachek in stock usually. I filled one vendor up with about 20 of them and overnight they disappeared. Either one person stocked up, or people go to Leppy's just for the Ormachek


I got Entrees IV last night and I'll most likely be selling Bivoli Tempari and Xermaauc fairly well, though pricey because of the amount of components needed.


I also rename all of the foods to something more fun... Ormachek is always renamed to "Fuzzy Mindblowing Pickles" People love the renaming! They think it's cute and funny




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J2xC
Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:13 am
#8

How much do you charge for ormachek? It hasn't exactly been flying off my shelves(most people prefer to get corellian fried ice cream or vercupti)



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entragian
Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:31 am
#9

I'm curious as to how you get the word out to some people and how much you think is a realistic price for Tatooine Sunburns.I've been able to sell a crate for well over 1k each but now I'm struggling to sell the 150+ I cranked out.


Anyone have some tips for a semi-aspiring chef trying to pay his maintenance?




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deadjawas
Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:46 am
#10

Synthsteak sells because it boosts the secondary health regen stat, and everyone is looking for that.



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J2xC
Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:16 am
#11

I wrote a thread about marketting stuff that should still be around... I'm too lazy to repeat everything I wrote in it



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Garamond
Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:34 pm
#12

I name my foods differnt as well usually



I used to use Omap oats to make traveler bisucets so I named them Omap Biscuits. and Ena berries in the Ena Treats




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THE DECEMBER 6TH BUG

On December 7th SirRafaelBH said, "They are aware of this. Please be patient, a fix should be on the way."

Thanks SirRafaelBH, Humor is important.
droidhunter21
Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:38 pm
#13






Garamond wrote:


Novice. +100 boosts to 1 or more stats. Not every food needs to be overwhelming but it should at the very least be as good as the best of the previous. in this case DA 4


line 1 +150-+300 durations should be getting longer here not shorter. the massive boosts should be shortlived but it needs to be balanced. dont boost mind by 400 for 60 seconds. by the time you heal it up you lose it.


line 2 +300-500. again durations should be pretty decent


line 3 +500-800


line 4 +800-1200


master +1200+ with durations up near the 10 minute level if not more






Honestly, that looks ALOT like the spice buff ranges. I just don't think its going to happen for Chefs. Food has certain clear benefits over spice (no downer - no "puke" - multidoses). All spice has going for it is stronger buffs and fewer bugs. I don't think the intention is to give food these kinds of buffs. What you really need is to take away the factory bugs, fix the resource issuesand balance the XP.


Another thing that worries me anout the Chef profession: does anyone else think there is a typo in the buffs the Tat Sunburn gives. I suspect TS should buff +160 STR, +160 STAM, and a nerf is on the way. Otherwise, why would the dev's have put this in Mix II, when it is as good or better than most Master Chef items?




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